Please stop being dense, i said the Karl Gustav has been in service SINCE the 1940s not that the same round was in service since then
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Unless you can provide a source of this then I’m going off what leyland say
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Sounds good to me
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Presence of L23 and Not L23A1 on All is a BUG as L23 does not exist (Report)
Mk.10 should have 852ps (Report)
Chieftains should be able to reload in 6 seconds (report) But can also according to other sources manage 5 seconds
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Off the top of my head, that’s at least 400mm CE protection
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reminder, the 20 pounders should be able to put rounds down range every 4 seconds… But gaijin doesn’t care. Haven’t for years. Get over it.
The reload was fine, the tank was fine. it just fucking needed to stay at 9.0 where it had been for EONS. Even if it got moved up to 10.0 Gaijin won’t buff it. They never buff anything British, Outside of the TTD which was a utterly ridiculous move.
Staying at 9.0 made sense, but sadly gaijin don’t agree and ignored our feedback, so now the best course of action is to try and get it buffed in other ways
The same happened with the Challenger Mk.3, where they moved it up and people petitioned for it to get L26 and it worked
The fact you’re offering a giant barely armoured weak spot full of ammo every time you peak doesnt help, the ammo is the highest point on the vehicle its silly
If you truly want them all to shoot L23A1 then some BRs / reload buffs should be adjusted.
Again, that would change their BRs. Plus reload of manual loaders is a soft property, meaning it’s up to Gaijin to change it based on balance.
Why not peitiion to get it moved BACK DOWN? Speak the fuck up about it being a dumb decision.
Even with Buffs its flat out going to get steamrolled in even 9.7 games. It already did. A faster reload and a barely better APFSDS round won’t help the fact that its armor only worked in a downtier, or the fact its horribly slow, or its horrible sights, or its lack of thermals, ANY of that.
it WORKED at 9.0, because it was in a spot where it got downtiers more than Uptiers, in Uptiers it just folded fast because you would get slapped by something with 3BM-42, or 3BM-60, and nuke you from across the map.
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you DO realize the L60 was in all kinds of other vehicles right? Even LOCOMOTIVES? the Chieftains weren’t the only vehicle to use it. And they were LIMITED at 760hp.
Even primary sources talking about the Totem pole program and everything call out the 760hp.
if i remember right the full document there specifically mentions the variants as used in the Cheiftain
this is like asking for the Pershing to get 1000+ HP because in modern day people have slapped turbos and modern fuel injection on the GAZ V8 and got alot more power out of it.
L23A1 is quite a bit better than L23. You can now lol-pen the T-72A’s UFP.
Probably because this is part of the Sundance program not the Totempole program
Totempole was mostly standardisation, while Sundance was a later upgrade specifically about upgrading the L60 to improve reliability and power
a main part of Totem pole was legit fitting every last still in service chieftain model with the 760hp L60.
Yes, but later on the Sundance program later on upgraded their engines to a furthur standard
I know wikipedia isnt a great source, but I think it gets my point across
Totempole standardised them to 9A, then Sundance furthur enhanced them above Totempole
The Leyland source also specifics the Sundance program
7.5 → 6s will not only beat T-72 autoloaders but match T-64’s autoloader, also giving it an advantage against 105mm tanks at 6.7 seconds
L23A1 is better than L23 Any day, more spall, and a good deal more angle pen, you Will notice the difference
852ps (840bhp to metric) will sort that out on the Mk.10, 900 is already more mobile
indeed
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Thanks
So ideally we would see a Mk.10 with L23A1, 850hp and a 6 second reload
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