Yes I did the research over a year ago and still no changes
The only 9.3 chief should be a fixed mk10
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Well, check again.
ZTZ88s don’t get a better dart nor turret armor.
Hull composite found on those is effective against L7 APDS but C900 also has some armor against shells like that, even without composite armor.
I guess you meant to say XM803.
That thing isn’t a part of a minor nation so was excluded from my comparison.
I guess France doesn’t suffer that much at all, right ?
AMX-30 Super is one of those 9.3s that should be going up.
Mk10 turret armor can still hold it’s own against rounds such as 120mm DM23, 105mm DM33 and M833. Same goes for partial downtiers.
That would completely nullify the BR change if you’re just going to buff things the moment they climb in BR.
Not really until it gets fixed, it’s also missing some 100 Hp
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Not really what ?
Go in the game and check it for yourself.
I play it at 9.7 a lot it’s super easy to deal with using those rounds.
The cheeks are only protected some 75% of the time and there are huge weak point near the breach and around the add on armour.
These weak points should be much stronger
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Doesn’t matter anymore, changes went live but I will never play these at 9.3.
Neither the 900 or Mk.10 are better than the Khalid or Olifant Mk.2
Khalid I just get better mobility than either of them, and the Olifant gives me DM63 and Gen2 Thermals with standoff composites to resist helicopter ATGMs (that turret has saved my bacon more than once.)
Neither the 900 nor the Mk.10 have a place in 9.3 as every tank that’s there is better.
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And oliphants armour is bad compared to irl too.
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sabra is a wild outlier, this thing can UFP t-80’s lmao
yeah there is no point in playing those anymore, the olifant mk2 is just miles better than both
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The ztz 88B has the longer caliber gun, it has a substantial increase in angled penetration meaning it’s more effective over all.
The flat pen is slightly lower but the angle pen is whats important.
The composites are extremely handy in my experience with it.
They give it slighlty higher protection on the hull the the C900.
Unless the composites have veen changed.
Thats the one, tend to use the MBT70 over it but.
Eh they also have stuff like the 32 105 which is just, terrible as a 9.3.
30 super is just fantastic, i take it up to 11.0 with me still.
Yes but it cannot stand against the likes of 2bm42, the chinese 10.3 round which is found at 9.3 as well
M829A1, sabra, nor the M900 america gets.
Funny that USA gets two 11.3 rounds at 10.3 lol.
As well as that we still have the likes of the T80UD at 10.3 which reloads in 6 seconds, has mango, has substantially better armour and mobility.
They need to stop just shuffling tanks arounf and reorder the BRs properly.
Hardly.
They’ve already got a nerfed reload, their aced reload is slower than that of a T72 or ztz 96.
As well as again the mk10 for example loses it’s one main advantage.
Hes not wrong, it has gaps in the armour around the breach, as well as you can sometimes just cut clean through it.
Sorry what?
It’s not an outlier at all, youve got at 10.0/10.3
- Sabra mk1
- m60 ambt
- 120S
- stryker
All with 11 0 at least rounds. And above.
i mean, am i wrong? those are outliers in the sea of mbts at that br
and sabra is like the only one you would actually see played (unlike the ambt) by sentient players (unlike the 120s and stryker)
like 99% of 120s i see are the free vehicle things with stock heat
Seems people are forgetting chemical rounds.
Any heat will finish a C900 with ease.
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Not really considering how many strykers and 120S there are.
I play those BRs alot, the 120S is actually pretty prominent.
As well as that if used right its bloody downright dominant.
120S when used right is a menace.
Just because idiots cant use it right doesn’t mean it should have the right to stomp downwards.
Yup, hell even frag can easily overpressure it roof wise.
Theyre likely going to fade to obscurity thr mk10 and C900 after this tbh.
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L23 is simply a better round.
It’s 10.7 now.
It has substantial armor against darts I’ve mentioned, so I’m not wrong at all.
No its not.
Don’t be simple now , there are ZTZ which one as i state same as the T69G II has a longer cannom giving better balistics.
Dont use the one firing Dm23
Use the right round for the ztz out of the Longer calibre cannon, it has higher pen over 200 angle pen.
Could ve the ZTZ88A then whichever is foldered.
As well as that the ztz has a 50 cal roof gun and access to so many different rounds e.g proxy
It moved up? Wasn’t on the list and not been on the game, thankfully it has moved up.
DM33, 120 DM23 and M883 can all easily get through it as @MatrixRupture said.
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Should be removed from the game
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They don’t even need to most the time LRF and good optics makes taking the breach and 2 crew a no skill event
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