Chieftain 900: Royal Ordnance’s Chieftain

Literally just point center of turret press R and shoot

Or shoot it in any other area.

Compare that to the irl one where that big green ring bottom of turret should be some 400 mm thick and resistant to dm23

So nothing in this game has armor ?
Mk10 has great turret armor that’ll definitely save you from time to time, even in partial uptiers to 10.0. Denying this is just arguing against facts.

As someone who plays it almost exclusively at that BR you’re being silly.

The most common way I’ve died is just a lol pen to the breach killing 2 crew and at that point the mk10 is essentially finished

Like I said give it the correct engine give it the correct armour it is then 9.3 worthy.

Sorry but no, I’m not.

9.7*

This is just stupid

We should call you not so bright spark

In no way is it close to things like the T-72

Apparently it is.

Really it is not.

Certainly can not do anything in an uptier to 10.7 it would be effectively useless.

Maybe in your hands.
With better engine and armor it could easily common shells like DM23 or M883, while also being able to penetrate common tanks like 2A4s and M1s.

Lmao you just don’t want the UK to have like 1 useably placed tank.

The only area that has any level of protection is the turret face.

All of those tanks you listed have similar turret protection and composite everywhere

They are also significantly faster have better optics and thermals some of them.

You think mk10 is equivalent to chally 1 and thats just silly. You’ve lost all credibility in my eyes.

1 Like

That’s just what you think when anyone disagrees with you.

Yes and they’d be a full BR higher.
They deserve to be better lol.

No I don’t.
Challenger 1 isn’t at 9.7.

It’s 10.0 there’s hardly a difference

9.3 is perfectly ok for fixed mk10.

It only going to be a good tank on long range maps. Everywhere else it’s just average to worse than average.

It is also a victim of the fact that the developers have not modeled the 60° penetration of the 3BM25, since it should be superior, making it have no problem eliminating any tank of its same era, such as the M60, Leopard 1, Chieftain, etc.

1 Like

Not really true when I get home I have a military issues enemy armour pamphlet released for use during the gold war.

It’s restriction should be expired now but I’ll check before sharing

Most Russian rounds see to be overperforming.

1 Like

9.3 is perfectly okay for current Mk10.

Fixed*

bm25 is modelled after a different round altogether
bm9, bm15 and bm42 are quite close to real numbers afaik

I’ll check when I get home

2 Likes

You’re entitled to your own opinion, I don’t think we have anything else to discuss.

Agree to disagree then let’s end it there

Apparently, the error is because the developers gave the 100mm 3BM25 a 60° penetration modifier that doesn’t apply. Supposedly, the 3BM25, 3BM21, and 3BM22 were designed the same way, so all three should have the same 60° penetration modifier.
https://www.reddit.com/r/Warthunder/comments/1764vrf/incorrect_performance_of_3bm21_and_3bm25/?tl=es-419
I think what happened is that the developers confused the 3BM25 with the 3BM20 or 19, since I believe that one of those two rounds had similar performance to the 3BM8 (in any case, they should be better than the 3BM8 at 60°).