Chengdu J-10, History, Performance & Discussion

AL-41F/177S level, 14500KGF, and possibly better high altitude performance
take the example of current game

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The WS-10B boasts a maximum thrust of 14.5 tons, which is 1.5 tons greater than the current in-game AL-31FN3 and 600 kg higher than the in-game single-engine AL-41FS. The WS-10B is essential for the J-10C, given its currently abnormally slow acceleration at high altitudes in the game, especially at its Battle Rating (BR) of 14.3. This is because the AL-31FN3 in the development server has undergone two rounds of nerfs. If the J-10C continues to use the AL-31FN3, its maneuverability improvement over the J-10A would be minimal .

According to the simulation chart, when comparing the J-10C in a clean configuration with the J-10A, the J-10C’s energy characteristics are not significantly superior to the J-10A’s within the altitude band of 9,000 meters to 5,000 meters. Furthermore, when the J-10C is loaded with two additional PL-12 missiles, its drag and weight increase further.


Moreover, compared to other fighters at the 14.3 BR (except for the F/A-18E), its acceleration performance is relatively poor, and the time it takes to reach its top speed is quite slow.


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The F/A-18E is also a poor insect in 14.3, it can hardly compete with others. However, the F/A-18E is not the focus of discussion in this thread.

you forgot about chanell loss. ( but j-10 have one of lowest loss on top tier jets 5%. ) whith 5% loss boost with current al-31fn will be 0.9-1t

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Thank you very much for your correction. If we follow this calculation, then the thrust of the 31FN3 in the game would actually be 13.6 tons, without subtracting the channel loss. In that case, with the WS10B’s 14.5 tons of thrust, the displayed thrust on the J-10C’s stat card in the game should be 13.77 tons?

The J-10A has a CL of 3.84% im pretty sure

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J-10C thrust with 14.5 tons static thrust would be 13.9t

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LS-6 (IR guided) (basically a chinese HOSBO)
C-704KG (IR guided AGM) (some 25km range iirc)
Other bombs and anti ship missiles, BRM-1 Firesnake 90 SAL HEAT rockets ( ← idk if these rockets are already there somebody gotta check)

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+GB3 (IR guided)
KD-88 + variants (notably KD-88A)
and LS-6 turbofan variants as well

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13.5 tons
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https://web.archive.org/web/20151126175901/http://www.salut.ru/ViewTopic.php?Id=2189
al31fn basic is 12500
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14000kgf static and 14700kgf at mach 0.6.

They do indeed need those air-to-ground weapons. In War Thunder, China might be the only one that doesn’t have ir-guided weapons.

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Those weapons are necessary for China tech-tree

Did anything get changed before the live or are we still stuck with the worst possible menglong

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Besides radar, nothing changed
no new engine, no new CAS weaponry, nothing

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its joever

Does anyone have any news on the YJ-83 and KD-88? I have a feeling foreigners are going to further disadvantage the Chinese nation compared to others on the subject of AGMs

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still only sat in the files to my knowledge, no idea when they will come sadly

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Also it might just come into the update without even a devblog since Gaijin had to rush to holidays.

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kinda weird to me that they didnt make a dev blog for the Su-30MKK and make us able to pre order it

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