12.7/13.0 J-10A early with no arh would be nice to have, also would give another reason for MLU to get its full potential without having to worry about china not having a “good 12.7/13.0” plane
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yeah, the reason for F-16A MLU stay at current position is that it has its position(SARH + irccm IR missile) here in this br, and J-10A early can replace it.
F-16A Block 20 MLU doesnt have IRCCM. It A2A armement are 9P with 9L and 7M
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I love the sexy diverterless intake.
my mistake
Hi, I just got the J-10A recently, aside from the usual missile gimps, the radar also seems to be comically low range compared to its peers? Doing some light reading I see websites claim a more reasonable 120-160km range than the pitiful 75km range that the KLJ-3 gets right now. Do you guys happen to have usable sources that I can make a big report with to get its range to be more reasonable for an early 2000s radar?
It’s perfectly usable within the capabilities of the PL-12, alongside the fact that it’s gimbal limits more than make up for poor range, nothing to complain about imho
I mean if they’d just slash the insane drag the missiles have and give it a more proper radar range I would have no qualms about it going to 14.0, as long as they’d give it performance that it should have. Besides the point is what it would reasonably have and not “does it work within the game meta”.
I don’t really see the point, cause at this point, the FM and TW ratio are not things we can change, and they are very much what makes 14.0s 14.0s. I have played too much J7E now that I play everything in that style, but from my experience with J10, try not to spam against AMRAAMs or any other missile, if a missile is coming your way early, notch it fully, enter the fight late and try to survive a bit more. PL12 works a lot better between 2.5 and 12km, try to keep it within 8 though in a tail chase.
I have heard that the J-10 has more drag than it should but that’s more or less besides the point, I’m pretty sure the J-10 still comfortably beats out just about every 13.7 so its performance gameplay wise is not what I’m having an issue with.
I know it’s like beating a dead horse at this point but when are they going to fix the TGP animation for the J-10A?
Also where’s the x4 guided munitions loadout? Or do we have to wait for the J-10B/C releases until Gaijin decides to fix it?
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There are also A2G weapons that are unique to China, such as the C701 or CM802, do we have to wait for the arrival of the J10B? China’s CAS is already the worst.
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https://community.gaijin.net/issues/p/warthunder/i/e9gTIpUADREo
I made a report about 5 months ago gaijin validated the chinese guided weapons for the j 10A and JF17, but for gaijin the priority is the milk cow nations USA/Russia
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If Gaijin treats China the same way the United States treats, then they will make more money. Because China is a huge market, a fraction of the hundreds of millions of players would be enough to feed Gaijin – and it’s a shame they didn’t realize it.
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I find it amusing that Rafale and Typhoon were worked on almost instantly while the patch specifically for them is still ongoing (hell, even Rafale got its full x8 AAM loadout a few days ago) but the J-10A still has a gimped loadout and a broken targeting pod, and no A2G missiles since September 😂
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Pretty standard.
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https://community.gaijin.net/issues/p/warthunder/i/Pe1gOfBlmzmU
accepted, at least two more LS6 for now, can’t find any info on LGBs though.
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With the Pakistani government going to war against Afghanistan, perhaps we’ll finally see a J-10 face combat experience.
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Technically, J-10CE was there to escort JF-17s when Pakistan conducted airstrikes on Iran on the start of 2024.
https://baijiahao.baidu.com/s?id=1589895811513978775&wfr=spider&for=pc
This source I found makes some interesting claims.
Here are some of the highlights that I’ve translated.
-It is revealed that two first-rate pilots of the PLAAF southern command theater, both flying the J-10B, demolished the opposition forces and went on the win the Golden Helmet DACT exercises in 2017, and that these photos seem to suggest them being J-11s, possibly J-11B since J-11A is no longer participating in Golden Helmet at this time, and are already considered second-rate.
-On an unrelated note, it is said that the J-10B was sent to the Cangzhou flight testing center of the PLAAF to square off against the J-11B, and that the J-10B secured a 4:1 ratio against the J-11B. Some even say that it was 10:1, an utter destruction of the J-11B. It is found that the J-11B, despite having an lower RCS than the original J-11, still had many surfaces which led to radar returns, mainly engine fan blades and the tall vertical stabilizers.
-J-10B is using an electronically-scanned array radar compared to the mech-scan pulse-doppler radar of the J-11B, and in the end J-10B was able to track and engage the J-11B much earlier than the J-11B engaging the J-10B. In a dogfight the J-11B fared even worse than in BVR.
-J-10B’s new DSI intake and improved AL-31FN led to a notable reduction in RCS, IR signature, and thrust improvement. Couple in the fact that J-10B’s nosecone is slimmer, the radar/radome is canted, and the intake, the radar return of the J-10B is said to be second lowest in the PLAAF, with only the J-20 having a smaller RCS. Apparently it is in the realm of 1 meters squared or even less, which would put it in comparison with the Rafale and Super Hornet in this regard.
-J-10B utilizes an AESA radar with a supposed detection range of 160-180 kilometers against a target of 3 meters squared RCS.
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