Chengdu J-10, History, Performance & Discussion

I will make a very bold guess, could it be something like the PERO N001? Like the one with PESA antenna but can be fitted to an N001 with minor modifications. This would be like 1473 with PESA antenna, I made this since it took 8 years between J10 A and J10 B entering service, I think they probably would have met major difficulties with balancing PESA radar and development of radar itself as with all Chinese fighters the radar is finished after first flight. I mean China has just gone through 1493 in 2004 so it is unlikely that they had a solution so fast to PESA, and therefor this was the solution.
This is all complete guess and there is no source behind it.

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I meant the pre production ones

Uh oh

So 9 km hmd range again ?

Yea, @MiG_23M posted a lot of data about su-27 underperforming in the su-27 thread.

The j8f has the full 20km range, he meant the annoying glowing circle thing that blocks your view.

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Gaijin directly copies HUD from J-8F, it’s interesting that the cockpit of J-8F is also incorrect.
They referred to the cockpit of Export F-8T to made J-8F cockpit.

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F-8T-1

Actually, J-8F has two MFDs instead of MFD+CDD

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Well isn’t that lovely

I mean not to mention things like Q5L and which doesn’t even have RWR in cockpit… Also I can’t seem to find J8B’s RWR in cockpit, anyone able to help?

Gaijin usually only uses one cockpit model for one aircraft family.

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强5L座舱就是毛子硬编的米格19仪表为底加导航仪新HUD。游戏内强5全家都是一个座舱仪表,你怎么可能找得到RWR。
强5的RWR改造基本放在这个位置,换了射轰1乙和数字化RWR的新世纪强5。
下图确认强5L上图不确定是5D还是拆了导航仪的5L


The rwr of J-8II and J-8PP are completely identical, and can only indicate warning of specific directions

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J8PPCLP
J8PPRWR

It wasn’t until J-8D that it was upgraded to digital RWR.
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I see thanks for the explanation.

China planed to jump over pesa radar and directly to aesa radar, that time, pesa is already not a problem. Then, it’s said that the yield rate of aesa unit is not good, causing extra cost, so they went back to pesa as interim measures. but only years later, problem solved, so not much J-10B was produced

Is there a designation you can find for what the PESA radar is by name of service or is it just a modified Type 1473 radar with modified PESA antennas keeping the same designation for whatever reason?

I can tell you that it is a X-band radar. Not sure about the designation.

I wonder if gaijin will just skip the j10b because they can’t find any info on the radar or if they will just make something up.

Actually we have entered the stage where there is basically zero information about the radars of in-service PLAAF aircraft e.g. J-16, J-10C, J-11D, etc.

Not sure how much it really matters, there’s plenty of info on the jl-10a radar and yet it’s still incredibly wrong in game.

Limited semi-active radar homing MRAAM PL-11 ?

IR AAM on J-10 basic maybe PL-8A only or both PL-5E & PL-8A ?

J-10 (not J-10A) no domestic chinese precision-guided munition and laser designator targeting pod ?

That could be a possibility or it’ll just come in much later as a pack premium copy paste J-10A with a made up radar like “Type 1473M PESA” or give it the ZTZ-96B treatment for ground and more or less not come

Might be early aircraft premium pre-order pack rank 9 ?

But for me, not rank 8

Air-to-Air armament like J-10A or unlike ?

More or less the same loadout but better flight performance and better radar.