Chengdu J-10, History, Performance & Discussion

I mean the current stupid airbase AA is literally non existent anyhow, so I don’t quite know how they will have SAM stations. It will be such a pain though if you are trying to lower your height to dodge ARAAM but a stupid SAM kills you.

We’re talking about the radar stations around the map. I dont think anyone actually wants them to shoot back.

I know, but will be a bit pointless if they don’t. We can however give like zsu23s and gepards as SPAA just so it’s a bit more fun (I know they already are there)

Imagine a map with so much short range AA that people have to fly at altitude the entire match … :)

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If you really want to force people to fly high you can do the truely evil thing that some DCS servers like doing and put an Igla man on every other rooftop to troll people.

(I still have nightmares from this)

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Would benefit whoever has the longest range missiles even more, making f15’s even more op.
Hopefully they fix the seeker on the pl12 cause it doesn’t seem to work all that well for bvr. Loses lock a lot.

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No it wouldn’t. It would benefit whoever has the most missiles - as well as those who have the highest gimbal of their radar.

Wouldn’t that still be the f15?

Not in terms of missile carried but yes in terms of radar.
J11A/su27SM carries 2 more R77

No, the MiG-29SMT and the Su-27’s carrying R-27ER & R-77 still beat it here.

Am I missing something here? The f15c carries 8 amraams and the j11a/su27sm only carry 6 r77’s. That’s less long range missiles.

F-15 and Su-27 variants will both be held back in total number of ordnance but the Su-27 is at an advantage in close range until the AIM-9X appears.

Here is an Su-35.

I mean the f15 still has a gun and better maneuverability so it’s not really at a disadvantage at close range. It will be once we get around to stuff like that su35, which may(though I’m not sure) get thrust vectoring.

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The Sukhoi’s also carry a gun, their maneuverability is better, and the armament is deadlier than current US options. The F-15’s only advantage is BVR and Radar / SA systems.

Have you been under a rock? The f15 has been more maneuverable than the su27 since the base models of both were added, the su27 only had an advantage on its first dev server. The f16 is better than both of them.

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Last I checked the F-15’s only advantage against the Su-27 is turn rate in regards to a dogfight but that doesn’t say a lot for us. The R-73 makes the Su-27 quite potent and even without it is no slouch. Moreover, it seems the Su-27’s are currently underperforming and are due a buff.

Apparently Su27 should have more lift than it currently has, I saw someone saying it is underperforming cause the vortex thrust is not given correctly in game, but I have no idea cause I don’t have a degree in aerodynamics :D.
Also I heard about a double fault of AIM9X missing a Su22 in middle east, any truth?

Su27 should definitely have less low speed drag, that’s its biggest issue, I have no idea about anything regarding aim9x’s though.

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Apparently it’s IRCCM works by locking onto the second hottest target, but Su22 had expired flares and therefor were actually less hot than the engine, allowing the lock of 9X to be transferred to the flares, kinda accidental.

That’s kinda hilarious