Chengdu J-10, History, Performance & Discussion

TY90 type in theory, should be exactly the same although that too is underperforming.

I know, pl-8b too, so I want to know what it’s like in game

PL-5E II in dev server lack IRCCM & 30G maneuvrability

I hope gajin fix PL-5E II maneuvrability to 35G and add IRCCM after update to live server

PL-8B with IRCCM & 40G maneuvrability like R-73 but flare resistance slightly better, my guess

https://www.reddit.com/r/Warthunder/comments/1fabn0j/238020_238021_part_1/
engine thrust increased, 100kgf normal, 300kgf afterburner.
but resistance of wings also increased a little, tail and elevator decreased a little but surly can’t make up for the wing

Why gaijin keeps increasing its wing’s drag? I know its a delta wing so it should produce higher drag compared to traditional wings but why increase it with each update?

yeah what’s going on with the constant drag increases? Wonder when it will be more draggy than a B17

3 Likes

delta wing should have low drag in supersonic speed and high altituade compared to traditional wings. Most delta wing planes choose this to meet the need of high speed air fighting, like J-10, EF-2000, especially early intercepters, like su-15, mig-21, f-106.
but in low speed, it need high aoa to produce enough lift, causing extra drag.
so strange

5 Likes

It currently feels like I’m dragging a cow behind it.

Feels like B29 RN.

Egypt to replace F-16s with China’s fighter jets (defence-blog.com)
Well maybe someday a random Egyptian dude will come out and speak the truth XD, but I doubt Gaijin would care anyway

1 Like


71YLytEYJWL.AC_UF1000,1000_QL80

Got the same book but in english, should I post some images tomorrow when it’s light?

3 Likes

After some work, sadly, the work of J-10A’s resistance in high speed is harder than I thought.
Gaijin’s high speed drag simulation is quite rough, making detailed realistic drag papers/curve found by google scholar useless.

Is there any text book in aerodynamics design/plane design, that contains comparison of high speed drag between delta wings and traditional wings.

5 Likes

You have to take into account relaxed stability which is most likely J10’s case

It is more of a ‘political’ thing but replacement is the early F16A/Bs (no MLU) with J10CE, which is sort of F16V equivalent if not even better due to PL15E. I mean Iraq is buying JF17 block 3 and negotiating J10CE domestic production.

It’s weird cause it does state Pakistan bought a variant for export ‘une variante pour achete’ (sorry for my french, I am learning) which Pakistan only bought J10C, although that came into service in 2018 and J10CE was first confirmed in 2019, whilst the book is published in October 2013 as of my knowledge.

1 Like

It’s a long time From the first rumor about someone buying J-10, to Pakistan really buy it. After all, if you want a good medium Jet, and don’t want accept those American policy, there are not much choice.

1 Like

Just a few things I found online which states drag coefficient of delta wing. https://www.researchgate.net have a lot on aerodynamics although the articles are subject to copy right. Just searching up gets you a lot of articles, such as this one on low speed characteristics (PDF) Low speed aerodynamic characteristics of non-slender delta wing at low angles of attack (researchgate.net)

3 Likes

thanks

If you also don’t want to suffer from the price of Rafael. Serbia is very close to China and received loads Chinese equipment but still went for Rafael, so I guess the political side is just as important.

Serbia is good at staying neutral

1 Like