30 seconds extra battery life nothing else
PL-12AE is most likely the export version of the PL-12A. Unlike the designations SD-10 and SD-10A, PL-12AE directly uses the PLA’s domestic model number followed by an “E” as the export designation code. Gaijin probably holds the same view, as AVIC has only publicly released the general specifications for the PL-12AE.
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hope this is right and they dont only change the avionics in game
It would be best if it’s not just a seeker change. The Chinese tech tree has lacked a missile with a range corresponding to the 771 and the 120C for a long time. The PL12A/AE is the perfect counterpart to them. The PL12’s range and its unusual flight profile cause it to be completely inferior to the 120C and 771 when engaging targets at slightly longer distances.
The PL-12A’s 120 km range and its new seeker (GNSS) correspond to the officially leek120D. Community manager 1080p stated that the 120D is the base model, and compared to the 120C, it has no propulsion optimization, only optimizations to the seeker and flight trajectory.
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Could you tell me where Smin mentioned the upgrades to the AIM-120D, particularly regarding the seeker, propulsion section, and flight profile? That new version rumor discussion thread is very long, and I’m having trouble finding it.
This is the original topic post, featuring the community manager’s response regarding the 120D version. It is the base model 120D (early). From what I understand, the 120D3 is the version with the improved rocket motor. The 120D only changed the seeker and optimized the flight trajectory. Overall, apart from the brand-new seeker, its improvements over the 120C are not significant.
PL12A fills the gap in the Chinese tech tree’s lack of a 120 km-range missile. Meanwhile, I speculate that both the PL12A and the 120D will serve in the next version as tests for the new seeker mechanics, particularly the GNSS functionality. This would act as a preliminary test for the seeker capabilities of future true top-tier missiles (like the R77M, 120D3/C8, 260, and PL-15).
It seems the answer is quite clear: the PL12A is essentially what we see as the PL12AE. :D
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Issue is there are range improvements for AMRAAM C that are not really implemented in game, or in a nerfed way. They could just compensate for it in one go. This so far will 100% go to the superhornets, F15s and EFs are unknown for now but I doubt it.
Is there any plans at all to add the air to ground missiles for the J-10C?
I feel like those missiles have been sitting in the files for awhile and it’s long overdue to be added
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I doubt it; if we’re lucky, we’ll get KH-38 in SU-30MK2 or J-16
probably su-35, it does actually carry them
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But an update later after Russia receives it, despite being the main foreign buyer, as happened with the SU-30MK2 that until now we still do not have in China.
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I wonder what the holdup is then
Are the A2G missiles too powerful for the current meta? Do they not have enough info for them? What gives?
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there is no sources for the kh-38 being on the J-16 or Su-30MK
I apologize for the vagueness but I meant for the CM-704, 701 etc for the J-10C
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https://community.gaijin.net/issues/p/warthunder/i/zaRnIrjc4Zyq
https://community.gaijin.net/issues/p/warthunder/i/e9gTIpUADREo
The C701 and C704 have been validated; moreover, the C704 is already modeled. But since it’s not Russian equipment, the Chinese missiles will arrive in 10 years…
Personally, I’d rather have a KD 88 that does man-in-the-loop (a new mechanic that Gaijin could implement) than a KH 38
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this didnt happen it just got more compressed and MKK was added
No real reason, other than no solid data on things like propulsion specifications, but that can be guestimated since I am pretty sure some missiles are using guessed values already, but I could be wrong.
Like the CM-704KG is quite literally a SAP Maverick, with IOG I guess. Similar range, similar speed, not very crazy. The KD-88 that is also modelled already is like the Kh-59 I guess, a long range cruise missile except this one does have an IIR version, which may be pretty nice.
There’s considerably more out there, but these two are the only ones modelled (jet deployed) A2G missiles so far I think. What’s worse is that I don’t even think these are carried in very high number at all, maybe like 4x, so it just kinda sucks that Gaijin is holding off so long adding them. At least we got a large number of IIR bombs, but still.
https://community.gaijin.net/issues/p/warthunder/i/zlQVURE8qyCy
According to this report the SU-30MK2 can carry the KH-38, if we get SU-30MK2 in TT in theory we could get the missile.
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KD88 perhaps a kh59 copy stuff with a ir seeker. IDK why gaijin hids this AGM while it’s not stronger than kh38