Cheerful reminder that the FIM-92 Stinger still has 13g overload when an accepted bug report has been out for 2 years showing it should have 20-22g

The topic title says it all.

Stingers still suck under the assumption that they can’t perform better than Iglas because they use the same manoeuvring control surfaces. See poor explanation here: MANPADS Missiles and Overload: The Technical Details

The accepted bug report that shows they should have 20-22g: Community Bug Reporting System

Would be nice to get the performance corrected.

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they just accept it to shut the player base up

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its IRCCM is also non functional…

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If by “non functional” you mean it can lock a pre-flaring plane with engine off then yes, it is broken.

…not from my own experience. more that migs can one flare it while on full reheat. Or it just wont lock well within the ranges my own brochures claim
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this is an even earlier report that theyve ignored Community Bug Reporting System

its almost like they dont want to fix things if it would make western weapons preform better

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I’ve tried countering stingers by gaining some height in AV-8C, shutting engine off (not just 0% throttle), turning on periodic counter measures, then tryna line up CCIP on enemy SPAA. The result was he simply launched a stinger at me, and it guided to my non-existent heat source without issue.

there was your mistake.

the harrier is hotter than the sun in WT, theres accepted reports to get its IR signature made right (should be as cold as the F-5 in game from above and about as hot as the F-5 should actually be from front and rear aspect)

https://community.gaijin.net/issues/p/warthunder/i/jPnIHzJGkCvF?comment=PGhGeTDDamLQpZmeWF4ec65r

most other planes and you can flare out a stinger pretty well from most angles. Should be far more challenging to do so

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Even by the fucked up standards of Gajin’s code, that shouldn’t matter. If you get a 1000x speed boost in a Custom Lobby, it will send you flying so fast that your speed integer overflows and resets repeatedly, even at 0% throttle. If you turn your engine off however, it creates 0 thrust.

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i shot down plenty of planes with stinkers from 6km

Doubt they will change anything

Try actually reading the report, everything the article claimed is very well put to bed;

Also if you want, try these two as well;

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Just a reminder:
Accepted ≠ we think it’s a bug/mistake and we will fix it
Accepted = report has passed moderation and the devs will look at it.

In addition, it was labeled “Forwarded as suggestion” aka “We don’t want to do that now”.

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Yes I know these bug reports. All I am saying is that once Gaijin has set their believe on whats “correct” it’s very hard to change it. Even with good bug reports that have plenty of source material.

I do wish that the report portal had more stats about the backend, like a position in queue. So I could at very least watch it tick down until the day it was implemented.

Take my JDAM, or RAH-66(#1,#2,#3) / AH-64E (#1, and #2 as a counterpoint that sometimes things are overlooked ) “suggestions” for example, they had a turn around of less than a month, it seems very obvious to me now that the “Suggestion” queue is used as an “extra” soft balancing tool, rather than a we’ll fix it at “some point” in future (This is nowhere near the level of the M60 Mantlet error though, so at least I know it could always be worse). The fact that Gaijin have remained very quiet as to how reports are handled internally is quite frustrating, it’s not like it would kill them to have one dev assigned to continuously work though the oldest documented report , and this reply chain will always hurt considering that it was nearly a year ago.


The issue is that anything that uses a “Historical” source as the basis for a change is automatically classed as a “Suggestion”, and so is triaged as such, even if it is to correct a “bug”, which is in a sense the erroneous change made during 1.97 (prior to that they were capable of a much more reasonable 18G, and even reverting it, was too much), as so without “sufficient” proof it would never have been accepted; so there is no way to get it fed into the “Bug” queue to actually be addressed.

My next best hope is that they are revised when it comes time to implement the Sgt.Stout ("M-SHORAD “Increment I”, or eventual “-Increment III”, though it may be armed with the “NGSRI”), since it actually comes with 200rpm 30mm HE-VT, and a near Hemispheric Radar.


It’s presenting additional information that they obviously haven’t yet considered so should brook at least some response, considering the wide ranging impact that said tranche of reports has across multiple nations.

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thats plain wrong, stingers have exceptional irccm

You would need to wait 5 billion years for harrier engines to cool down
https://youtube.com/shorts/S6RGoU6c2YA?si=j7iT-IZE8U3wwUUO

Forget any bug that is excepted about NATO equipment being fixed any time soon

only certain ones and they are usually unaware