Chaos in the Skies: The Devastating Impact of the Su-25SM3 in War Thunder

Fr the A-10 is dog water slow. The only worthwhile way to grind is to attack ground troops until you get 9Ls than larp as a fighter

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That’s completely fine for the tippy top of the ground trees. What’s important is that the 10.7’s and all in between can’t see the highest end CAS planes.

This was another slap in the face for everyone. We are complaining about the Su-25M3, which is very strong, since there are no AA systems that can shoot it down, as the only AA is on its own team, the Pantsir. Now, they decide to add another super overpowered CAS jet, the Su-27SM, which will be more overpowered than the Su-25M3 itself. Remember what I’m saying here. Except for Russia, all nations have AA systems that can hit at a maximum distance of 10-12 km. This Su-27 will be flying above 10 km and killing everyone with its KAB-1500 laser bombs. The difference is that if you try to do this against Russia, you will probably be shot down by the Pantsir at 20 km altitude. Not to mention that the Su-27 will carry Kh-29s, which are great for taking out AAs. I don’t understand this need to make Russia so strong in this game. The matches are practically Russia vs. Russia. Everyone is noticing what is happening; this is getting ugly. Adding the Su-25M3 at 12.7 won’t solve the problem, as if you go up against it, you will probably die to a Kh-38 and now the Su-27SM’s KAB-1500s.


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This will at least be above 12.7 since it is entirely 100% better than the 12.7 Su-27.

Unless they’re planning on decompressing ground RB (Which is actually somewhat likely) no ground vehicles will be able to face it

What’s the point of raising the BR above 12.7 if you put a plane above 11.7 that will always fall against the 11.7 tanks…

13.0 can never see 11.7 tanks unless you have a 13.0 in your lineup (and thus this wouldn’t be a threat)

Unless it’s an uptier

Sorry uptier to 12.7

hmmm? but i thought missiles are the only thing that matters?

okay?

f16c and gripen dont do this?

by the way, it can only take one kab 1500 genius

how is it overpowered tell me tell me how is it overpowered as cas while having no thermals nothing

As I mentioned, they can do it, but there is the Pantsir to take them down at an altitude of 20 km. This is called balance. The rest of the other nations only have AA that can hit at a maximum of 10 to 12 km…

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No one flies that high because you’d just get smacked by anything that spots your incredibly obvious contrail

Su-27SM is a nothingburger in terms of CAS, literally crying over a GBU-8 analogue.

You Russian players are hilarious, you love defending cowardice. You know the game is unbalanced in favor of Russia, but you remain in denial. I play as Russia too, as I showed in my screenshots, and I can kill at least 4 players with the Su25m3 without any effort. I just want balance in the game.

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Maybe in top tiers but if anything the US and Germany gets its hand held far more than Russia whether it’s air or ground. Especially in Sim.

Ah yes the german handholding with a good tank every 4 years and fuck all between them

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Tested as of recent with the Ito90M VT1 missiles and the missile just goes too fast to hit and the few times it does its more of a 50/50 if it actually destroys it, but when you have limited ammo every missile counts. Cant exactly shoot down a jet if you run out of missile intercepting its own missiles. yk?

  1. Mavericks are incredibly inconsistent with regards to tracking and damage
  2. While you 100% can use a jet like the F16C to intercept these jets, there is almost always and pantsrir that will shoot you down either beforehand or after the matter.
  3. Even if you do shoot 1 down, you’ll have a pantsrir spawned to revenge kill you or more will spawn when you die.
  4. The real problem isnt even the aircraft nessecarily, its the lack of any efficient counters for those weapon systems, people play ground battles to play tanks, not die to a jet or heli they cant do much about. With CAS systems vastly outperforming AA systems and one specific country having the edge needed to actually match these CAS systems, there is a major imbalance.
  5. The only way you can spawn a F16C to intercept and perform CAS is to even get the SP to spawn one, which is made significantly harder by the CAS on the enemy team, granted you only need a kill and an assist to spawn one, especially in a light tank.
  6. Nobody wants to die to a Jet they had no idea about, we wanna enjoy our tanks and not be hopelessly killed by any CAS, I cant count the amount of times I just give up when I hear a jet in a tank, especially a missile heading to me. Not everyone first spawns AA, and most kills will be on defenseless MBTs that have no counter, and by the time one is spawned (if any) the team is wiped out.
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Major problem is that not everyone is playing an AA, in a mode that it MEANT TO BE TANK vs TANK. There might be an AA when a jet spawns if you’re lucky and even luckier if they do their job, but an MBT 9/10 times is gonna lose to any form of CAS. They need a new mode that’s just tanks, don’t remove ground battles; if you wanna be able to use CAS be ready to be on the receiving end too. But the players that don’t wanna fight CAS in the GROUND game mode should have the option to not fight them. Its such an easy fix, but they just don’t want to. I wouldn’t mind waiting 5 minutes for a game as long as I don’t have to deal with CAS, hell I’ve waited for 15+ minutes to get a raid in Escape From Tarkov and get my shit rocked off the bat.

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I can’t deny that the SU25SM3 and Pantsir S1 are strong. But I doubt if you actually used Pantsir S1 and 38MT yourself. The numbers you’re talking about have almost multiplied the performance in the game by several times.

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Ground RB never was meant to be tank vs tank only, read the description.

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