Are you talking about the F-16C? With invisible missiles that will destroy every flying thing?
The plane that literally killed SIM along with gripen?
but muh russian bias :(
You mean the plane that goes high and dies to an R-27ER? Or the plane that goes low and dies to some butthurt TY-90 flinger that brings a backup after eating a 65D. Meanwhile the entire NATO team is CAS’d to death by Kamovs and now have the 4 best DEAD platforms in the game
Yeah, just wait for CAP to show you the hangar.
If you didn’t already know about the slew angles of the nose-based camera systems inherent in the 25 before making your original argument, you clearly won’t fare well.
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W H E E Z E
Right.
Imagine dying to radar missiles, copium skill issue. Go ask in any sim community, everybody will tell you gripen and f-16 destroyed sim. cope harder
Sure, but it was nerfed under bogus pretenses and then left to rot. It needs to be fixed or simply replaced.
Yet my MiG-29A still has a nearly 3-1 KD… Odd. Sounds like a lot of people that don’t know how to play around short range missiles while having the best long range options to me
probably from before 9M and F-16C and gripen. If you think either SU-27 or MIG-29 is better than F-16/Gripen in sim you are lying or clueless.
Nice %28 winrate on MIG-29 btw, shows how dogshit everything is vs ufo and handheld american/swedish jets.
Just go to war thunder sim community on reddit if you think im making shit up, everyone thinks Red side is dogshit and west side is handheld.
“bUT muH rUSSiaN bIaS”
Winrate is irrelevant is ASB, you know that. Bombing wins those matches, not fighters.
And nope, mostly against Gripens. Have had a couple of games where I’ve made Gripen pilots rage quit just because I never let them shoot 9Ms at me while racking up 27ER kills on them
They must be idiots with brainrot who refuse to fly low. It’s not the plane, those idiots would lose to mig-23 in an F-22
TYPE-81 is better in every, single, way btw.
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Ill take your word for it. As I have yet to play that vehicle so I am assuming that you have. I am curious though, how so?
Don’t take my word for it, look it up yourself.
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Weird.
- US got GBU (at least 4 of them), started with 10.0, not even talk about the Walleye series since it’s very depend on the skill of the pilot and RNG.
- UK also got GBU (even with thermal pod) with 4 of it.
- Israel started with 9.3 (5 of them).
- China with Q-5 but with just 2 GBU (but still has better pod).
- Italy is a different story since AMX help them has a room to breath.
Most of them need 2S6 to fully counter or the Strela need at least 4.5km range to kill them since with GBU loadout, they mostly hanged above 5Km.
I’m not even talking about F-16, let that outside since F-16 is at 12.7, we only count ground BR.
Russian around that BR still uses the sucker Delta-NG pod and need to get close (<3km) to use S-250 rocket or anytype of Kh series, Kh-29 has more range ?, good luck to spot target to guide that thing with Russian pod.
Most of the jet that outside Russia has better maneuvering and at least has better pod/even has thermal. Much better QoL to doing CAS
Su-25SM3 also a pure Strike aircraft, can’t not even reach sonic speed, has MAW, a thermal pod that only it has.
Also, using some highilight to state out something OP is pure copium, if you take that, i can take the video with Hunter guide how to counter 2S6 or Justin using AMX/A-6 tram dumb GBU to strela/Ozelot at 6000m but do we see any whining about that.
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It is becaause those are american stuff, only russian stuff can be op
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Being honest, with their doctrine CAS should cost like 50% what it does for other nations - I’d love to see everyone freaking out.
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hm ok, strela range is capped at 5km while the rest can go much further beyond that. Alright, seems balanced. Just have to not exist within 5km of the strela.
No, that is not correct.
The reason for strela being hard to flare is because of optical lock, if you fly close to terrain it will lost lock.
If he fires with IR lock, it is very easily flared.
But the TYPE-81 IR lock has insane IRCCM compared to strela IR IRCCM
Su-25SM3 doesn’t even get into the top 10.
It’s good, but anything short of supersonic targeting pod won’t deplatform the top 10.
Soviets don’t have the best SPAA in the game, it’s tied with ITO-90M and TOR-M1, which is 4 tech trees, 5 if you count Flarakrad.
Shooting down helicopters from 19km isn’t helpful when supersonic CAS range is 15+km, well outside maneuverable operating ranges of Pantsir’s missile.
Soviets get a good CAS for once and ya’ll complain.
“WAAA! They got something worse than my F-14B and are doing better than me in it!”
Yes, CAS is OP, yes we need new SPAA. No, Su-25 is not the best CAS and will never be, it’s just part of the OP CAS now alongside ~20 others.
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