Chaos in the Skies: The Devastating Impact of the Su-25SM3 in War Thunder

I hope you didn’t assume I didn’t know that haha…
regardless, what matters is an aircraft’s ability to get to speed and altitude, in order to give an ARM standoff range. Su-25 does not perform well in that regard compared to say, a Tornado or F-16 and thus will probably be a less effective platform.

Not to mention how much more time and money has been spent on dedicated ARMs by NATO, specifically to counter Tactical level threats.

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And its still evolving at a fairly rapid pace, with more than a few potential upcoming formfactors.



A-10C_ BRU-61A w GBU-39_SDB

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There’s always the Kh-25MPU which is designed to be used against systems like the Roland and Crotale, and supposedly the Kh-58 can also be somewhat flexible against shorter range systems.

I’m not saying that none would be capable of doing so, but a comparison between the Kh-28 and AGM-45 / AGM-78; for example should be fairly obvious to the conclusions that would be drawn as to their relative effectiveness.

Sure, but Its presence will be limited by the airframes that can carry it (practically only Strike or specialist SEAD airframes, no Self escorting multirole fighters), at least one ARM (Shrike / HARM / SideARM, etc.) could each be carried by most Fighter / Strike Airframe’s of their relevant era so access to the tech isn’t that much of an issue at least for Western tech trees, especially if Gaijin were to include limited developmental test configurations, which wouldn’t be the first time; the F-5A after all has access to a MER on the Center Line station based of a single photo of a configuration that we know was never flight tested.

75-752 AGM-45, AGM-78 & ALQ-188

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Nah, not as Tor M1, since it sometimes explodes too far away to damage the missile. Also the vertical launch system loses you about 3-5 seconds to adjust the pointing of missile, this means you can not intercept when the are within 2 km. The lock time, reaction time is about 5 seconds for a Tor, more if you are moving. that means you have to be aware right at the start to intercept it. I’ve faced 5-6 su25sm3s in the past 4 games (all against russia despite I’m china), and all of them got 3 kills at least, whilst I see F16s killed by spaa easily. It is unreliable a t more than 10km, but that is still hard for SPAA to intercept since MT is fire and forget.

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Since most people are defending the non-stolen SU25m3, I decided to pick it up and play as Russian. I’m averaging 6 to 7 tanks per match with the SU25m3, I just don’t kill more because the match is too short. As the saying goes, if you can’t beat them, join them. I’ve never won so many matches playing War Thunder, playing as Russian; out of 10 matches, I win 8. I was playing as Swedish and German and it’s not like that. Well, I’m not a good CAS player, but I’m wrecking the enemy team, if that’s not overpowered, I don’t know what is.

Note: I lost because the majority of the team was American, it’s difficult to carry the American team on your back…

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proof for everything you said

also youre not telling us how many spaa the enemy has up

Literally all 16 could be in SPAA and it would make absolutely 0 difference. He can fire 4 missiles and RTB before ever entering their max range, let alone their effective firing range.

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Bury your head in the sand all you want, it doesn’t change reality

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you know what you said is not true

thats why you dont want to do it😉

I could do it? You’re the one pretending it can’t be done easily

then do it

Doesn’t really matter, KH38MT outranges all SPAA in-game.

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it does matter but ok lmao

never thought of intercepting?

If by intercepting you mean a fighter coming in , sure its possible.
However ive personally never seen anyone spawn a fighter just to intercept CAS outside of Squadron Battles.

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cuh intercepting the missile

with 16 spaas that is very much possible

I mean , yeah thats possible too, but again, not enough people do it. I did launch a KH38MT at a FlaRakRad once, all of his VT1s just phased through.

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because he was locking you, remember, gaijin disabled proxy until late in the lock

if he was locking the missile it wouldve exploded

From what I can understand, only the Pantsir have the ability to lock onto the missile just because of how fast the Kh-38MTs go (Mach 2.2).
For reference, the Kh-29TDs go Mach 1.8, and mavericks go Mach 0.9.

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Nope ITO-90,Flarak and even TOR-M1 can do it.

Problem is Su-25M3 can just go back to airfield, rearm and spam those KH-38’s until Spaa runs out of missiles not to mention it can outrange any enemy spaa effectively.

Su-25M3 is nothing but a broken cas plane.

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