You can always spawn a tank and deal with him ;)
I love how it all comes down to what I have been saying.
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‘But then I won’t be able to play my plane I grinded for and suffered through the tech tree for. 😭’
-the guy probably
Yes, when im already in a plane a can spawn a tank and deal with him. Recognize the irony in your sentence, since you are one of the main whiners about “i can’t do anything against a plane without dying” ?
Btw. i am not complaining, i adapted to new SPAA, just stating facts.
What it all comes down to is double standards.
Yes, shame on us who play the gamemode as intended.
The intended way being 1 tank and 5 planes or some such?
Nobody is taking 5 planes and if he does, he won’t be able to spawn them in 99% of the matches.
Lineup in a striker and a fighter.
From people who said the same thing to tankers
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I mean this is in this exact thread.
If you say plane lineup I will ibterpret it as a lineup consisting mostly of planes. You can say full lineup or lineup with 2 planes. But if you say plane lineup that would be a lineup with just planes.
Again, im talking high tier and don’t care about WW2.
And i doubt that guy is spawning more than 2 planes regulary, at least not with loadout.
I check the lineups of my teammates almost every match and nobody has more than 2 planes. If he has more, it’s to chose one or the other, and not because he would be able to spawn them all.
If the fighter is used as CAP, and striker as CAS then you don’t get increased spawn costs.
Complication does arise even with this change as certain CAP retain CAS capability even with default belts (hellcats, P40s, corsairs, mustangs. Anything with .50 cal brownings basically). My 2.3 P-40E’s 5 ground kills are all defualt-belt strafing runs on PzIVs.
But it’s better than it was where you can go and drop 3 1000 lbs bombs, fire a veritable ton of rockets, then strafe with guns in a corsair, die and… come back to do the same thing again but in a sky-raider.
Now you start with the sky raider which is somewhat less agile and easier to hit for SPAA and then must earn and prove yourself to repeat in the corsair or just spawn the corsair to shoot yaks.
Just spawn SPAA and kill the plane.
I cannot because I am in a tank.
You should have thought of that first.
(When they are defending CAS)
Just spawn a tank and kill the SPAA.
But I am already in a plane.
Should have thought of that first.
(This argument is somehow double standards)
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Yes i know, but i don’t want to use my top tier multirole fighters as pure CAP, thats why they are multirole.
Well quite literally nothing is changing on that front so this should be a non issue. Then
I am pointing out how ridicilous your arguments with “i have to die first” are. I don’t need to make that argument since again, i adapted and can deal with it, unlike you apparently.
You can still use the same plane twice without the ibcreass in cost if you take out a pure CAP loadout the second time. Or since it’s a multirole use it in multiple roles.
The issue is your argument does not hold water.
If my first spawn is a tank I literally have to die to get SPAA.
Planes however are never first spawns.
I know how it works. The whole point of having a multirole and a striker is you can take CAS loadout with both, otherwise i wouldn’t even had to grind the strike planes. They will become purely irrelevant. Why would i take the Mirage 2000 striker for example, if the Rafale just does both things better. Hence people grinded strikers for nothing, their whole existence in this game is because of GRB and maybe Sim and not ARB.
Look, this has been beaten to death here, you don’t want to understand and need this argument to cry for your mode which is forbidden to mention here.
I never made any mention of any mode. That comes from you mentioning it. I am adhering to this thread and the fact that SP changes will not affect you as badly as you claim.
Maybe people grinded strikers because they like the particualr plane. I will not go into the mirage vs rafale debate because I prefer to play tanks in top tier and if I spawn a plane it’s the rafale with pure CAP loadout.
Yea you are maybe right and i will also adapt to that, but i can still be against it.
Could be, doesn’t change the fact they will become useless after this change.
And then as you know a fully loaded Rafale without SP reduction from scouting is 972 points i believe, which is plenty enough, since they already raised it up to that last year.
Yeah in GRB if you have the rafale. If you don’t they won’t. They are still able to be played in any mode though so you can always use them. It’s not like you will have to leave them behind.
Yeah I think it is around there and it can stay there. I think the main issue is just how any plane above like 11.7 goes into the same 12.0 ground matchup. Sure the rafale and those bring the ground RB to 13.0 but if you ever played it you know it’s just constant. Uptiers since it changes nothing for the dirst 5 minutes and onwards for tanks. 12.0 or 13.0 battles are the same tanks. But I digress. I don’t even have the ground attack mirages because I never bothered to buy them.
Yeah you can be. I never said you are not allowed to object such changes.
I don’t have to leave them behind, but it doesn’t make sense to bring the mirage anymore because the Rafale is just straight up better at both things. And i paid golden eagles for all my line ups to have enough crew slots for tanks, heli and my 2 planes. So i paid real money, which becomes useless now, since filling it with another tank doesn’t make sense.
Thats not true btw., i also played a lot of Isreal lately to get the spyder on 12.7 with my friend who plays USA on 12.7 and whe had a fair amount of 12.7 matches. You should try it, it’s pretty good.
And it takes away the sole plus of russian top tier, which is the 13.0 CAS which results in a lot of winning.