but he do if see upper you have all the info and you have the little mark you have only press the button for shoot and if you go linear at the mark he hit alws the center of ship after depend of you doing good correction.
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and full undertier not even an a same br or upper is crazy haha
Naval EC never had bots so far? Wdym? Sure the queue times could be annoyingly long. But all players were actual players.
A middleground would have been fine so youd maybe have to wait 10 maybe at max 15 minutes and then play a match with 8 to 12 players and the rest are bots. But this? 4 player matches??? no thanks man.
One good thing about the removed SP system though could be that then you can always refill the matches if players leave early. You might join on the losing team but you wont have to creep up the ranks anymore. Still unlucky if you end up with your 7.7 hood max in a lobby vs 4 players with sojuz and iowa.
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I apologise but I don’t understand what you’re trying to say. The language barrier seems to be in play here.
My point is we, the player, should simply have to tell the rangefinding crews that we want to shoot at X point. The AI will then do the calculations for us and lead the target accordingly like a proper gun crew should be doing.
1 player actually, the other guy in the game I’m playing right now has only a single mission score and is probably afk
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In my current experience, marches start as 1v1-2v2s but progressively and quickly become 4v4-8v8s as people join.
Since now people, well, can actually join an ongoing match without being forced to face BBs, CAs and BCs in mere DDs.
And to most people, the former 15+ minute long queue times were detrimental enough not to even bother queuing up.
The change just made it live, let’s give it some time to find its ground.
yeah maybe some language issue but your rangefinder go for the center of ship who is better he give you alot of margin too move and do good correction i think if i have good comprehension having the rangefinder doing under the ammo and give you the exact lead seems too op
and give info upper on the radar watch when you are not watching the radar for the air
I frequently had full games of EC. Bots are a dynamic I wanted to avoid. They’re not fun.
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I think I understand what you’re trying to say. Yes, I know the rangefinder currently targets the centre of the ship, however, targetting other parts of the ship, IE the turrets, bridge etc, you have to guesstimate and cannot tell the rangefinders ‘I wish to shoot this part of the ship, not the centre’
Do not misunderstand, I can use the current realistic battle aiming system… it’s just not intuitive compared to the arcade version which is more realistic. If you added the timer for rangefinding to this version then I can see it working for the realistic mode.
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We will get there. As I said, let the changes mature…
With improved EC, more people will join;
The more people, the less bots,
All with reduced queue times.
Were there less bots when every EC match was played by the same 16 hardcore fans than waited 15 minutes or more to get in than now that matches have been split in BRs? Yes.
Does it mean that the situation will stay like this forever? No.
Having made EC more engaging and accessible will bring enough players to turn it into an actually viable regular mode for the general playerbase instead of a lobby for the same 16 hardcore people.
I get your reasoning, but where’s the skill in that? As every player can just point at the ammoracks of a ship or any vulnerable section and just wait for the shells to land. Even Wows makes the player take into account the enemy ship movement. This just feels like removing player input and turning every ship into the current mouse guided missile ship gameplay we have right now
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Bots are still a major portion of randoms. What makes you think a more niche game mode with less unique appeal will suddenly have more players?
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The whole point of this operation is to stop the gamemode from being niche and make it mainstream instead.
Have you ever wondered the sort of things that limited it to a small niche instead of reaching wider audiences?
Gaijin doesn’t want to keep a mode fit for 16 people who get very mad at the thought of change. They want an actually significant portion of the playerbase accessing and playing it.
Instead of wanting it to remain unchanged and niche forever, you should be glad we may soon receive an actual influx of players attracted by the accessibility changes.
It’s to simulate the fact that you, the player are not the only one on the ship. The skill would also be that in realistic mode, the rangefinder only accounts for your current course, heading and speed. You turn, speed up or do anything else to alter the inputs of the rangefinders and that means the rangefinding mark will be off. This by no means prevents you from eyeballing it, but it makes it so your rangefinders are actually properly rangefinding as opposed to just aiming dead centre of the ship.
There are better ways to do that than just making them large random battles. This, as most naval changes so far have, is going to alienate the existing player base and gain fewer players who would not have otherwise played it.
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this move have done left same the super toxic community was , part of good community and this is an a action of gamemode for play attrach new player, but if you play it he dont count in battlepass event ecc, or adding bot, huge sense.
But that’s what already happens? In realistic the arrow calculates the horizontal lead based on the center of the enemy takin both ships into account at the moment the bar fills,while arcade is more automatic and doesn’t let you change your shot nearly as much. Once the realistic rangefinding bar is filled that becomes old data and it’s your skill to adjust from it. You could say that you’re not only playing the captain but the entire crew of the ship, so you need to actually do wha the gunnery crew would do. It’s the same as not only controlling the commander of a tank but gunner,loader, and driver too
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do not count me in.
Regular match bored me, and this also bored me.
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