they should make a offical poll for bomber feedback
omg i hate polls, hope they wont ever do polls
they literally said that they are working on more changes to bomber dm, why should they stop because players voted a no yet again, lol.
Everyone who tried to do something for any game knows that players should not have a vote, lol, they will always vote no against anything that is not a direct buff for their own specific playstyle. Even if they don’t care about this specific feature - they still vote no because “there are things you should do instead of this, such as buffing my own specific playstyle”
Players... they only think about themselves... THEY'RE SPOILED!
It would just show the 70% of players who enjoy fighter gameplay wouldn’t want it reverted or severely nerfed to the point bombers would be pointless again.
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The game doesn’t account for the reduction in the spar’s strength to withstand load. It’ll fail at 1g just as much as at 10g. Unfortunely, the only condition is that it reaches “black”
Also, @TheAnnoyingFinn was just turning at 205 km/h IAS there
It’s funny how the biggest problem before for damage were guns like 50 cals and their unrealistic damage they do.
And after all nerfs and buffs, they continue to be the best weapon you can have lol.
Easiest solution is gonna be to nerf 50 cals globally, but Gaijin will never do that, since they know who is giving them money hahahah
i still gotta say the damage models are fine, they just need to take more damage from fires and needs more drag when very damaged
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So basically - despite everything ever said, FINALLY they were right.! Bombers were too easily shot down, NOW I wonder how much difference there is in say - FW109 and an IL2 in regards to the damage model, after all how many wings magically rip off, tails disappear into the sunset so on so forth? OH the miraculous AA 1 volley kill from a billion miles away. ( that’s my personal favourite - slight exaggeration lol )
I wonder how that stacks up against the new bomber damage model in comparison???
Yup that is definitely accurate.! 100% agree.
It looks like they removed the Ju 88 C-6 from the buff list.
How do they justify the exact same airframe having two different durability?
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Its German…
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“The production process had so much variability that some units were delivered with 100 mm skin panels”
I assume TIS MA, Su-8, and Tu-1 are still on it?
Yes, but in War Thunder there are 6 to 8 fighters tyring to knock down one bomber - in real life you had multipule bombers with interlocking fields of fire, as well as fighter escort in flights if not squadrons. You are ABSOLUTELY correct…however making an individual bomber much harder to kill makes it less inviting as a free kill to dogfight heads.
Would I trade nearly anything to see a version of War Thunder strike a half-way-to-DCS kind of game mode? Big world, lots of moving parts? More attention to how battlefields actually worked and AI planes and vehicles that made that a little easier? Yeah. I’d pay the cost of a premium every month if they would be willing to offer that as a subscription feature.
That said, for those of us who play with what we’ve got…bombers are fun again. Even if you get shot down its usually even odds. And yeah, I do a lot of intercepts in RB & SB. Especially SB because while a Tu-95 can spoof a Falcon, some of the other bombers cant and that makes planes like the Dart and Dagger worth grinding out.
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Complaining about the SU-8 is peak comedy.
That thing was terrible before hand. TU-1 was decent.
Tis ma, never flew it.
Funny you seem to complain about Russian vehicles a lot. Is that coincidence? Or a pattern?
Perhaps it’s the fact that 2 very powerful Russian attackers get the buff, yet many comparable aircraft do not. The TIS MA is the worst offender as it’s only a bit bigger or equal in size/weight to a P-38, BF-110G, or Beaufighter, yet none of those got any buffs. This isn’t even including stuff like the Brigand B.1, Ju 88 C-6, XA-38 or P-61 all of which were ignored.
Also it’s not just a Russia bias thing, if so people would complain about the Pe-3s getting buffed, yet I have not seen any of it.
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It’s not conspiratorial to say that the Su-8 and TIS MA got buffed while comparable aircraft in other trees did not.
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Also, anyone seen how expensive the TIS MA and Su-8 are on the marketplace currently, it’s crazy! 😂
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Got a quick and dirty way to balance the role of bombers in battles, so they stop pretending they were made for gunshipping: make dying cost 20k SL. This will force all the grinding bomber players to avoid combat when possible.
Rewarding bomber interceptions should also reward more than a usual kill, reflecting the increased risk when attacking bombers, but that’s optional honestly.
Tis ma I can kinda understand.
TU-1 and SU-8 on the other hand were not that great pre update.
If anyone hit you it almost always resulted in a fire that burnt the vehicle down in about 5-10 seconds