Isn’t this calculated completely differently from how weapons are supposed to work?
Running into aircraft has always been glitchy. It’s not uncommon to smack into another going mach 1 and somehow just glitching through one another.
Do they just have heat sources placed in cardinal directions of the aircraft or something?
Heat Sources are not modeled for fixed wing aircraft.
It just operates off the thrust output of the engine and the missile just goes for the centre of the aircraft.
the war thunder community when a large, net positive change is coming to the game:
this is going to be just like the proposed APHE rework
If the live servers get hit with the buffs that we have on the dev servers right now, this is not gonna be a net positive change lol
no comment
I think you got the wrong guy, I never claimed B17 could or should tank missiles, infact ive been the one sending videos of them NOT doing that to disprove some people posting some frankly ludicrous footage, now some target drones did tank em, and b52s in vietnam tanked larger, but these are very much one off cases that may happen rarely in war thunder
Jesus christ 😂
Idk about you guys but im not sticking around for another 1000 messages of going in circles with the same handful of like 8 people
Ok then lol
you gonna post it or expect me to scroll through the 1700 messages to find it?
The game does not represent reality objectively either since the mode of engagement isn’t the same.
Since the mode of engagement isn’t the same you can’t compare the results of these engagements. A good model might actually result in a large % of tail separation in WT simply due to players attacking in different ways compared to real life
Lol same
You know that even if they release as it is now (broken) soon or later they will patch it right? Cuz it will affect every game mode drastically.
Bombers will go up in BR and they may even reduce the rewards for it since you are immune to the majority of the rounds now.
Finally, when they adjust the dms slider to common sense levels of durability, you will end up with only the negative effects of the whole thing simply cuz you consider firing over 1000 rounds of 20mm totally acceptable game design/ large net positive change.
Agree with this. Hitbox model should be able to account for the spatial distribution of hits, distinguishing the degree of clustering among them. Obviously it’s not the same for the airframe if all the hits are spread evenly across its surface versus if they all land in the same small area or along a continuous line, creating a significant stress concentration point - the latter should have a much higher chance of structural failure.
It would also reward players who put in the effort to land precision shots, rather than just spraying.
Yes, which is why 20mm effectiveness was 1/4 of 30mm.
And if you shoot said structural member you create a failure point.
This was just one 20mm hit
That’s cool and all but fuel tanks are functionally invulnerable as of now.
Two 20mm cannons would find it very hard to shoot down a B-17 without concentrated fire, yes.
Currently, even if you avoid the flap entirely using the HE APKWS, it’s ~3x stronger than it was IRL.
“positive change” is when bombers are made of adamantium and can eat hundreds, if not thousands of cannon shells apparently
still waiting for that footage buddy
yeah man for sure
Surely a bomber survivability buff this extreme won’t impact any mode negatively
lmfao
That’s true, but that point doesn’t necessarily make it fail at the moment of the impact. What it does is weaken the structure and increase susceptibility to failure under variable loads. In fact, I’d agree that a damaged aircraft with fragment holes in the spar could break apart when attempting several high-G maneuvers.
That should be a mechanic honestly
I did have a thought on this. They could fake it.
ASMs have code where the missile just randomly picks 1 of 3 points instead just going for the centre point.
They could just do the same for the IR Missiles. Have each engine a target point and have the missile just go for which ever is closest rather than going for the aircraft’s centre
