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It’s sounding more and more like if you smack something directly with a big BOOM that you’re going to blow it apart. But most missiles proxy and so it’s less blowing the whole thing into pieces and instead just shredding everything it can until it cant even fly or everyone is dead.
Can we just stop dismissing everything under the catch-all excuse of “That’s survivorship bias!!”
A good damage model should be able to reproduce even statistically atypical outcomes. If in reality only 2% of B-17s survived severe tail damage, but in the game 100% of them go down from that same damage, then the model is objectively not representative of reality.
Yeah, that is true and a good idea if they can actually do it
Percussion was using an IRL source where they fired an early Falcon into a surplus B-17 as a basis for comparing the damage model to what its like in-game
Which Is in part why I think its a typically used example at the moment.
Though I do agree. Im not that worried that ARH missiles seem to interact wierdly with the damage models, but would like to see IR missiles go for the engines and not the tail in regard to something like the Firestreak or Red Top, among others
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A good damage model should reproduce statistically atypical outcomes at their historically atypical rate. Currently you can smash a plane into the tail of a B-17 and it will do nothing. This is not realistic and this is not a good damage model.
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Keep on dreaming, buddy
This is WT, we can’t expect that much depth from Gaijin
Yeah… unfortunately… Still gunna have ASRAAMs go for centre mass based upon thurst output and not heat signatures, and be 1 flare defeated :D
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What do you mean, something like helicopters which uses a turbine engine have no heat signature to lock onto?
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Clearly a marketing lie
Next thing you’ll tell me that IR missiles should have an easier time locking onto heat signatures in cold weather or that fog shouldn’t entirely mask IR signatures
Isn’t this calculated completely differently from how weapons are supposed to work?
Running into aircraft has always been glitchy. It’s not uncommon to smack into another going mach 1 and somehow just glitching through one another.
Do they just have heat sources placed in cardinal directions of the aircraft or something?
Heat Sources are not modeled for fixed wing aircraft.
It just operates off the thrust output of the engine and the missile just goes for the centre of the aircraft.
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the war thunder community when a large, net positive change is coming to the game:
this is going to be just like the proposed APHE rework
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If the live servers get hit with the buffs that we have on the dev servers right now, this is not gonna be a net positive change lol
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no comment
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I think you got the wrong guy, I never claimed B17 could or should tank missiles, infact ive been the one sending videos of them NOT doing that to disprove some people posting some frankly ludicrous footage, now some target drones did tank em, and b52s in vietnam tanked larger, but these are very much one off cases that may happen rarely in war thunder
Jesus christ 😂
Idk about you guys but im not sticking around for another 1000 messages of going in circles with the same handful of like 8 people
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Ok then lol
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you gonna post it or expect me to scroll through the 1700 messages to find it?