The proxy fuzes on the M429 rockets are pure trash lol
And no, they aren’t chain reacting, that really is just how bad those rockets perform against planes currently. Probably because Gaijin gave them 500g TNT equivalent when they should have around 1kg at least.
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Ah, thats fair. Yeah I agree that needs to be improved. I thought it was about blowing the bomber to pieces
Hmm… that might track with what we can see in the clip then.
I see whats happening here
So the first sets are the shells detonating on the surface, which is what my equation calculates, The second round is the shell detonating inside, where its an enclosed space where the pressure blasts everything out now.
SO what im reading is, the equation isnt wrong, again, but in this case it was used for the wrong purpose, and a different one must be used for this blast out effect
Probably also some rapier treatment and so frick all shrapnel
Yeah, uh learn to notch yet mr irondome exploiter?
His entire argument is that when you calculated the hole for the impact explosion, you used Mk 108 variables, which is wrong because this is a 20mm mineshell. You can pretty much disregard the right-most image, only the left-most matter here.
Personally, I care little about this dispute.
How is it BS? Just because you don’t think so?
The whole point of the 55mm rocket was to kill a bomber in a single shot. I’ve shown it surviving multiple. Other people have shown them surviving even larger rockets. We have also shown light bombers like Blenheim Mk IV surviving multiple 30mm shots to the tail from multiple angles.
There isnt a “specific variable” per shell, this is purely off of TNT filler, I can calculate 20, 30, 37, 50, whatever filler you want going off on the surface, itll calculate to a highly accurate degree
This is an underestimation here, the hitting effect of 9K127 (4.3 kg charge).
I think you should aim better
Not sure, I think they just nerfed the rockets at some point, completely went overboard with it and now they just don’t care about it.
The F-89D still is fun to use, but the rockets are not reliable at all, not even when you do shotgun launches.
The plane would unironically be better, if it had the rocket lead computer and no proxy rockets.
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So they did a Gaijin :D
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Isn’t Vikhr using a proximity fuse when launched at an air target? Either way that’s a good example.
When I say Mk 108 variables, I mean the TNT of the Mk 108 mineshell.
Again, you calculated the hole size for an MK 108 mineshell and matched it to the image. But in reality this is a 20mm mineshell with far less explosive.
TL;DR: your formula is severely underestimating the hole size, because it’s saying a 30mm mineshell is making this hole, when in reality it’s a 20mm one.
Proxy fuze and HEAT warhead
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It’s 2am, I’m going to sleep.
I just stated the formula matches a surface detonation, which if i plug in the 20mm shells numbers for the literal surface detonation example, it matches the surface detonation hole on the left exactly.
But since this is a shell going off INSIDE an enclosed space, you also have to worry about how much force the panels can whitstand from an explosive going off in an explosive space with a fixed volume
And now this is bringing in even more unpredictable variables
The larger the space, the less effect this will have, what if the space already has holes that lets the pressure escape before skin tearing? What if its in a stronger section of a b17s wing instead of a 0.6mm he111 tail?
See, I wouldnt trust a clanker to calculate that, or even a human, every spot on the plane would have a different result, and those results themselves would have different results based on literally ambient air pressure at the altitude the plane was shot at and weather the plane was already shot.
I went with the most predictable set of variables for consistency. plain surface detonation
But I do know something for sure. 5 mk108s for a b17? when a b25 had a 53% chance of dying to 10? buuuuullshiiiiiiiiiiiit. Necro about 2200 messages ago called this out as something posted on a damn art blog.
The old guy throwing around “trogledite” can take his little report and shove it in the crevice of his house alongside his magical film that he promised to show 2 weeks ago
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I don’t exactly know what you mean right now lol
10 hits to where
4-5 is specifically stated to be if they hit in the same area.