Changes to Bomber Survivability Feedback and Discussion

Those are FFARs being fired.

Would you happen to know which version of FFAR is being fired? There are a bunch of FFAR variations with different warheads and fuzes.

So photographic evidence from German testing isn’t enough?

But also British testing with video isn’t enough because British aluminum is somehow worse than everyone else’s aluminum?

It never changes.

Still waiting on grok.exe to prove that the photo is of a cloth covered control surface and not the thing that the photograph states that it is.

He 111 stab skin 0.6–0.8 mm Alclad
MK 108 class W = 0.10 kg TNT-eq
E = 0.42 MJ

R_hole 0.16 m hole Ø ≈ 32 cm
band 24–44 cm

R_peel 0.56 m peel Ø ≈ 1.1 m
band 0.8–1.6 m

F_shear 1.6e5 N @ 0.6 mm
1.9e5 N @ 0.7 mm
2.2e5 N @ 0.8 mm

Ofcourse this is ONLY the skin calculation, so if we take that 0.8-1.6m petaling diameter, lets average to 1.1m diatemeter (and using this gentleman’s head as a ruler as we already have, 20cm from chin to the top of the head), we got 5 heads stacked across this damage, which gives us 100cm, or just about 1m, which is within 10% of the average that the clanker dropped on the floor.

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And if we overlay the 1.1m hole

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The clanker equation proves itself yet again

But I will give you credit. you’re right, this isnt the elevator, its the horizontal stabilizer made out of 0.6-0.8mm skin

I mistook those hinges of being part of the elevator mounting into the stab, when in reality it was the other way around. I will admit I was wrong here

I haven’t seen that video.

Pretty sure that with the F-89 the practice was to shoot a large burst of rockets due to inaccuracy. It has little to do with damage and more so just actually hitting the plane since, one thing to consider, actual F-89’s did not have proximity fuses like we see in game.

You can even see in the video how the rockets spread out significantly. Shooting a single rocket at a time would not be efficient (I mean compared to in game these rockets are HORRIBLY inaccurate and if I remember right these planes already had computers to help with aiming).

Similarly, the R4M was also launched in bursts from Me 262s, even though the 55mm warhead was meant to incapacitate a bomber in a single hit.

Long story short: launching many rockets was less about guaranteeing a kill through lots of damage, but rather guaranteeing a kill through actually hitting due to how inaccurate rockets can be.

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Gaijin should though, and if they dont, then we are waaaaay more screwed than just large HE explosions not doing the right damage to a bomber.

Hahahahahahhahah…

You’re council of AIs is very very stupid.

This is the dumbest possible thing you could post. You might want to use your eyes and read instead of using your AIs to read.

The impact one, I don’t want to open the pandora box of F-89D VT fuze load out not being historical.

Prove its stupid lol. Go on, prove it wrong. I didnt even bother sugar coating it for you, from now on you are getting just straight clanker slop, and you will fail to prove it wrong anyway.

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What is that even supposed to say

Man looking at this screenshot again you can tell so easily what the bots bias is lmao

skip to 1:12, it shows the second volley (1st did literally nothing)

The FFAR was chosen since a single hit would instantly down a nuclear bomber. Accuracy didn’t really matter because a full rocket volley would have enough spread to guarantee anything caught in its intercept path would be brought down.

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that thumbnail actually made me chuckle lmao

Those have like 100g HE less, that’s not much of a difference, especially when you fire a shotgun burst at a bomber

Edit: nevermind, the HE warhead used in WT is just completely wrong lmao

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Surely you can figure it out.

Ok, heres a fresh conversation with only one prompt.

Can you post the rest of the original summary I gotta know what else it’s saying

LMFAO. DUDE. THATS LITERALLY IT. THATS THE SHARED LINK TO THE ENTIRE CONVO.

I sent it a link, asked it one question, and THAT is what it spat out, zero bias, zero “make this guy look bad and me look good”. Literally " Changes to Bomber Survivability Feedback and Discussion - #2312 by Spil1tia-psn

As a joke, analyze the messages Spil1tia-psn has sent in this thread, and estimate his IQ"

For someone bashing on AI so much, you really have no clue how it works do you