afaik. He probably just chose it because he has slightly better stats due to fewer games played
That’s not a problem to him. It’s a solution
CAS should not be easy to spawn though. It Ground RB, not Air RB. If you want to spawn in CAS, you need to work for that, instead of it being pretty much guaranteed every match.
The m163 is awful against planes, so no argument there. The zsu 37-2 can move back up to 8.0-8.3 tho, shit is awful to face in planes and tanks. The shilka is as good at taking out planes as all the other spaa, only slightly worse so it should be kept at the same br as the others. I dont play them much but considering my buddy in the non radar version goes around in it having a blast i dont think its as bad as you think.
The problem is, moving them up doesnt solve much. Theyll still be as effective at 9.0 theyll just struggle a little more. Just look at the itspv and za 35, even at 8.7 they are still running rampant. I havent played the za 35 in years and its still in my top 10 i think so this isnt even me trying to get stuff i face nerfed they are just too powerful with aphe and the real shame is that we had a fix that people voted against.
ZSU-37-2 to 8.3? That’s hilarious.
I haven’t played much of the Shilka, but from what I have played off it, the guns are terrible. They are piss easy to dodge for every jet at 7.7 and above. The ZSU-37 is a good SPAA, but in no way shape or form deserves to go up. If you are dying to this thing at 7.7 in a tank, then you do something wrong. It’s slow and has -1 degree of gun depression.
The one without the radar is at 7.3, so naturally it’s going to face slower opponents, making the guns better. It also has a crazy amount of ammo if I remember correctly.
My thing was that the suggestion to move up all of the 35mm SPAA up to 9.0 wouldn’t do anything other than make them suffer while leaving CAS impervious to any SPAA. Shilka’s guns are slow as hell, while the M163 is the M163.
If these SPAA are really a problem when it comes to shooting down aircraft, CAS players can just get better and not expect to dominate Ground RB in a plane.
KpB has nothing to do with skill. You can’t control what the enemy team spawns, and most of the time they spawn less than 3 planes per game.
WZ305 is already very good at 8.0. It doesn’t need radar.
Yes, I actually thought it was bad when I first got it. Now I realized the only reason the M163 would ever appear to be bad to anyone, is if that person just sucks at the game.
2.11, but ok
.66kd versus aircraft but ok. And your M163 has 300 matches and has 100 air kills. Still think it’s fine when you are that atrocious with it?
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Where exactly are deaths to aircraft, and only aircraft recorded?
Wow, I performed poorly in a tank when I was new to the game. In other news, a fork has just been discovered in a kitchen.
Yeah I agree but you did lump it into the other SPAA with radar.
Yeah ok sure killing tanks in that thing is way too easy. Still not making a strong point for your argument.
My argument . . . that’s it’s a strong tank? I think a 2.11 K/D is a pretty good argument.
Your argument that it’s a good spaa most of your KD comes from killing tanks
As I’ve said before, is extremely rare to see more than 1-2 planes spawn per game. It’s pretty much a given that any gunned vehicle above 7.3 is gonna have more ground kills than air kills, unless it’s something like the Sidam.
I’ll never get over how people voted against even testing it…
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SUre. But you’re still presenting your KD (inflated by tank kills) as proof of SPAA being effective at their primary duty which is shooting down planes.
I am not. I am presenting my K/D as proof that the vehicle overall is good.
Also, I didn’t see you berading @ICrayonEatr-live for using tank deaths to say a vehicle is bad against air, which is a lil biased of you.
Flaunting your KD against tanks when the entire thread about is that we KNOW it’s strong against tanks. Why the hell do you think I made this thread? Your KD proves it’s fine against aircraft, which you were arguing against.
Wha does this even mean?
If you don’t understand the basics of how stat tracking works, I ain’t gonna be the one to teach ya.
What’s all this then??
This is clearly referencing how OP SPAA is against planes so nobody wants to spawn them.
Because that is a completely different can of worms? A vehicle being bad against air means that it is bad at destroying air not bad at surviving air. If these vehicles were so OP against planes people would have positive KD or a 1 KD against air even if they died to tanks every single time since they are OP and can kill any plane that just happens to get into their range . It would average out.
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I don’t believe you could teach anything if you tried, so that’s probably for the better. But I was questioning why you are bringing up tank deaths when we are talking about SPAA effectiveness against air and their APHE shell?