The first challengers are way to slow for the br, under armored compared to what they fight. The challengers even got a fake turret basket to nerf them even more. Moving both up in br was one of the dumbest changes the dev team has done so far, doesnt make sense at all
the Challenger mk3 is genuinely one of the best 11.0 tanks bro (i would put the 2A4 and MAYBE the M1 over it) but you have decent mobility amazing firepower good gun handling for the br pretty decent armour and sights for the br it should not be downtiered at all
A) not even remotely close
B) almost everything around them went up as well since this wasnt indicidual BR change but decompression
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they are slow true, but underarmored? They are as armored as Leopard 2a4 thus they are enough armored.
They have their problems but genuinely they are quire cool and fun to play. They have better shots than most their partners and faster reloads too.
game is full british bias, people often downplaying how strong the challengers actually are, the 4030 already full uk bias and then go up a bit you have the GOAT challenger 2, it has so much turret armor even the russian bias filed for restraining order
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how? IT has worst possible british ammunition that only deals “hit no damage”.
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Its a slow glass cannon is all it is. Its got trash gun stabilization and you cant even play hull down because you cant peek fast enough to kill any other mbt at the same br. Thing should have stayed at the br they were at before the decompression
2-way stab and 15* MIMIMUM vertical aim speed? How iin the good lord is it “trash stab”?
Also
30* turret rotation is just, like, GOOD.
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They shouldint have gone up at all is my point. They were struggling at 10.3 and 10.7 already
im not even gonna reply to this i think your just using it wrong, and thats coming from a challenger main.
its pretty fast bor 10.3 it has a good round with a 5s reload and amazing armour for the br what more do you want?
MK2 and C2 arent much alike tho.
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the black night is worse for the br than the chally mk3
Its just slightly faster then the t72b, the abrams and leopard both have much better elevation rate and horizontal speed
Well i want my round to actually do some damage when it hits the enemy xD
I mean no offence, i like british 10.0 (now 10.3 tho) with 4030 and TTD but i myself much rather would weel safer with TTD and DM63 than with 4030 and L23. Its just bad shot, it deals no damage at all. Overall 4030 is great tho, if only it had L23A1 for a change.
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Now way, it was a massacre when it were 9.7, then moved up to 10.0 still half the things it face simply cannot pen the turret cheek, it has so many foods like t-55s, leo 1s, m60s, it also has way better optic if you wanna pick the t-72b apart, leo 2k can’t afford to trade shot with it as one of them has tissue paper turret
it does have L23A1?
its TIMES faster in vertical aim (3* vs 15 to 20!!!) and 10 degree faster than its horisontal. Even more than 10 degree if we consider some of the variants of T-72.
Abrams and Leopard have literally same vertical aim speed (1 diff makes no diff when its 20+). Tho they have it better at horisontal, yes, for same 10*, 30 isnt 15 and 20, its pretty much enough for comfort.
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Didnt when i last used it, at least i believe so. I believe it got L23A1 just now with the last patch as they “removed” L23 shell entirely from the game due to bugreports
Its not massacre if its just turret cheek tho. People cant pen T-72s cheeks yet its considered garbage.
I agree. Tbh the elavation rate and horizontal speed isnt even my issue. What i have a problem with is the fact they are too slow to play around anywhere. Like i said earlier if your rushing you die by a hull shot. If you play hull down your too slow to peek an enemy thats slughtly unaware of your position. Especially on a slight incline the thing doesnt want to move