Challenger DS may need L26 APFSDS ammunation :(

Note, these are all things I love.
2 TES, Black Night, 2E, Tornado F3 & IDS, Rooivalk, GR7, Bosvark.

@Morvran
Many vehicles have active bug reports depending on time & level of research needed to fix them.
Me waiting for Abrams & Leopard 2 to have their correct over-engine gun depression.
Leclerc armor.
Torque converter simulation improvements.
CITV channels for tanks with multiple thermal cameras.
Correct 23G overload of Aim-9G & H.

@MastuhWaffles
We’re not even at AMRAAM BRs yet, patience.

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Except in my experience and opinion. Its usually the soviet stuff that gets patched and fixed first.

Tornado Gr1 underperforms in ARB

Gaijin: “CM overhaul and ECMs are coming at some point in the future, no ETA”

9 months later, no changes.

Su-39/Su-25 underperforms in ARB

Gaijin: “here take the most OP IR missile that we can give you, the R-73”

barely 2 months later, changes are likely due ASAP

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i heard they made them all aspect but i have never seen on do all aspect so i dont know if thats true or not

I have, maanged once to get Red Tops to fire in all-aspect. But it ONLY works if the target is both on reheat and super-sonic, in a head on, with radar lock. reality is, the window for all-aspect should be a lot larger.

https://community.gaijin.net/issues/p/warthunder/i/wi1YHANSfsrs
https://community.gaijin.net/issues/p/warthunder/i/OmqlkwTnBH9p
https://community.gaijin.net/issues/p/warthunder/i/oLy6ADzDpBO4

I cant find the bug report about their range, but should have a rear aspect range of about 2.5km if I recall correctly

The R-73 is necessary because without it adding more IRCCM missiles becomes vastly more difficult.
And no, there are countless Soviet bugs that aren’t fixed.
2S38 has a similar system to HSTV-L where the entire thing is a first stage. In WT it’s similar to the CV 90s.
ECM is obviously a missing feature currently.
Yak-28B still has the fuel starvation bug.
Mig-29 has incorrect fuel consumption according to the in-game time estimator for full mil power, & sources from the manufacturer. [I actually reported this one.]

Note, these are all things I love.

Ok? What are you getting at

My point is all nations get attention.

The R-73 is necessary because without it adding more IRCCM missiles becomes vastly more difficult.

This has nothing to do with UK getting shafted by decisions like this

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Except for the fact AMRAAMs are extremely high chance [essentially guaranteed] this year, and if they test R-73s now, that gives them indication on when & where Aim-9Ms can be.
Both of which help Britain.

And this helps UK how?

Unless we get SHAR Fa2, nothing is going to get Aim-9Ms. AMRAAMs are a maybe at most for the F3 and I doubt they’ll come with the AMRAAM update, if they do come it will likely be the one afterwards. I hope im wrong, but I doubt it

Generally, we get new additions 1 to 2 updates later than everyone else. If at all.

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I mean, it’s possible you get the SA Gripen over Tornado F3 getting AMRAAMs, but in either direction Britain’s gonna be ahead of France for a while.

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I seriosuly seriosuly doubt britain will get the Gripen. and if it does get the Gripen over the SHar FA2 or the Tornado F3 then its going to be a major outcry. Becasue once again we got a copy paste from another nation instead of actually giving us something new or fixing something pre-existing.It would be the Indian T-90 all over again.

It’s literally Britain’s sub-tree, and there’s nothing else Britain can get for 12.3 besides Gripen & Tornado with 4 AMRAAMs.
Indian T-90 wasn’t finished.

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Sea Harrier FA2.

  • 4 x Sidewinder + 2 x Gun Pod + 60 countermeasures (provided by 2 x AN/ALE-40)
  • 2 x AMRAAM + 2 x Gun Pod + 60 countermeasures (provided by 2 x AN/ALE-40)
  • 4 x Sidewinder + 2 x AMRAAM + 60 countermeasures (provided by 2 x AN/ALE-40)
  • 4 x AMRAAM + 60 countermeasures (provided by 2 x AN/ALE-40)
  • 2 x Sidewinder + 2 x Gun Pod + 380 countermeasures ( 2 x BOL 304 & 2 x AN/ALE-40)
  • 2 x Sidewinder + 2 x AMRAAM + 380 countermeasures ( 2 x BOL 304 & 2 x AN/ALE-40)

So its this or

Finished Tornado F3 and give it AMRAAM

or

An Pre-production/prototype Typhoon. (like this British Weapon Systems - Technical data and discussion - #157 by TPS_Hydra)

I dont really think South African stuff in the Ground TT was the right call, and I think we should of instead seen things from Canada or Australia instead. This goes for the air tree. when there are British Options left, or more closely connected Commonwealth nations also available with their options (Hoping for a Hawk soon as well. That could carry AMRAAM) then they should do that first instead

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They really need to fix this because the lightning is just dead right now

Yeah, I did a couple of matches recently, and its really hit and miss. I had 1 great game, where I thought for a moment it was maybe semi-fixed. followed by 2 appauling matches where the Red top missed easy shots well within range. Fired at a F-104 at sub 1km (max range is 1.5km), he took no evasive action. It just missed. It was unable to hit a target flying in a straight line.

My issue is Sea Vixen & Lightening don’t have countermeasures.
Red Tops when they become all-aspect… not going to go well for their BRs.

Its not “true” all-aspect like a 9L or R-60M. It requires very specific conditions. (I think mostly relatively high speed of the target, and perticular warm target) Im also not sure how well they’ll work in other aspects. Though I think the Red Tops can be radar slaved IRL for improved performance. (I can see them making the conditions for all aspect really really tight and thus quite rare)

“According to this document the Red Top should be able to hit a Buccaneer flying at Mach 0.9, when fired from a range of about 3.5 km, 30° off of head on (150° off the target’s tail). Note that the Buccaneer in this situation is flying subsonically and has no afterburner, showing that the Red Top does not necessarily need a supersonic / afterburning target in order to lock in the front aspect.”

https://community.gaijin.net/issues/p/warthunder/i/wi1YHANSfsrs

I can see the lightnings rise back to 9.7, but I dont think they’ll go to 10.0. Sea Vixen with its lack of guns, still give it a major disadvantage, especially in front aspect. I can see an SB rise for it, but I dont think it will change in ARB. But time will tell.

Though even just fixes with some range buffs, would be great, even if they decide to omit all-aspect for balance reasons. Their biggest issue is guidance problems and the fact they pull barely 2 or 3Gs, not 16G

The real question is the SRAAM carriers .

https://community.gaijin.net/issues/p/warthunder/i/uMO3VGJ8IjBf

I think they are going to be far more potent with the same kind of all-aspect due to 40G pulls instead of 16Gs

meanwhile the Chinese ty90 pulls double it’s statcard