Challenger 3 (Technology Demonstrator) discussion

A topic to discuss the Challenger 3 (Technology Demonstrator) on the dev server of update “Air Superiority”

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There seems to be confusion on its armor. To my understanding its a Chally 2 with a L55 and better electronics/sights right?

Since the real chally 3 is in production/RD

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Yes, that is correct (it is L55a1) . But Gaijin increased its weight to match the estimated weight of the True Challenger 3 prototype. Im waiting for an answear, and if i wont get it, tomorrow 18 GMT i will make a bug report about it

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Sounds like theyre a bit crossed on the weight. That new 1500hp engine already helps a ton watching the dev stream, if it gets even faster ill grind Britain

Wait, so is it the proper Chally 3 or just a misnamed Chally 2 CLIP? I’m not very familiar with the Chally 3.

The one we have is a Challenger 2 LEP, that was later renamed to the Challenger 3 and it was its Technology Demonstrator. Prototype was supposed/will come by the end of the year

CLIP was a situation where they put the normal L55 into the normal Cr2 turret and removed some of the turret interior to fit 6 120mm NATO shells

The (P) afaik is just a 2, whatever theyre newest one is, is that a CLIP? With an L55A1. The Production Model Chally 3 is still in RD/finalization due to British slowness

It is a LEP

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Thank you Sir. I honestly find british nomenclature very confusing lol. Dont even get me started on their Aircraft and their obsession with "Mk. "

Trust me, it took me a while to comprehend all this too

How about some WWII tanks being x Mk y and some just being x y lol

I just realised Challenger 3 (P)'s visual model does not fit the armor model.

The armor model is copy-pasted from Challenger 2; however, Challenger 3 (P)'s visual model is far more angled sideways and backwards.

I hope this is a placeholder thing, although the “identical turret to Challenger 2” statement in the Dev Blog makes me a bit pessimistic.

Expect it to change, but you can make a bug report on it if you want to make sure

Hehehe. We like our confusing naming schemes :P because: The Gr1, Gr1 and Gr1 are 3 different aircraft and it is fun to have to deal with in convo :P

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u sure it will come end of this year? there realy isnt much left…

probably exists, the turret internals were completed in august just no public showing yet

Made it
https://community.gaijin.net/issues/p/warthunder/i/tqwP2dEihgru

Missing armor around ammo storage
https://community.gaijin.net/issues/p/warthunder/i/35QlQ7zegesd

Wrong weight
https://community.gaijin.net/issues/p/warthunder/i/TmfWqB5WGPMi

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The easy way of spotting CLIP is that the smooth bore gun uses the same barrel sleeve as the L30A1 gun (as it and the L/55 have the same dimensions. At this point you can think of CLIP as a ~2005 proof-of-concept for mounting the L/55 in a CR2 turret.

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Excellent, thank you!