No it shouldn’t.
I don’t know why they added it tbh. Unless it’s something to do with needing a new tank so they could put the OES in.
Speaking of the OES, can’t imagine they’re getting many sales of it. When I do venture into the hell hole that is 11+, I hardly ever see an OES, so I imagine it will be removed from sale in the not too distant future.
Does the “challenger 3” still have the base ch2 damage model on it?
yes. and the old mantlet.
to be honest i even think the mantlet is right for the l55 the way it is. there is no reason to fit composite on the mantlet for a demo tank and we all know the l55 has no rotor on the cr3
no spall liner, ammo isnt protected, etc. its a mess
Yeah.
I made a bug report about it, but it’s been ignored.
https://community.gaijin.net/issues/p/warthunder/i/mWd3XAjD2kZu
“Acknowledged”, yes, but… what good is it “being acknowledged” for, if it’s not going to be fixed in months anyway?
I checked it now and its not being ignored. Sadly for some changes it just takes some time.
Yeah, that’s what I mean. It got acknowledged, but… no changes.
If it were some kind of extremely complex topic, I would get that it could take some time. But all this bug consists of is that they switched back to an old model when there was already a good model.
Literally all they have to do is to revert back to it. They don’t even have to do anything new because it’s already done. The bug is simply that they, for some reason, reverted its good turret back to the wrong one, now all they have to do is to revert back to the good one which already exists.
This is the good, already existing model: there is no reason why the tank should have been a single day with the wrong old CR2 model, let alone months by now.
THAT BEING SAID: Perhaps they are reworking the good turret to be even better modelled and more accurate, just like they did with the CR2s? If that was the case, I would stand corrected, hahah. Even then, this model would be way more convenient to use until then rather than the old CR2 one, which doesn’t even fit the geometries.
Remodel the Challenger turret this quick after the recent remodel, thats funny. Gaijin gave the CR2 their attention so now the CR2 will go back to never being thought of by Gaijin for 4 years.
i wont play them till they’re are fixed. aka im never playing them again XD
I seldomly play 11.3 CR2 to dodge alot of the 12.7 games. I absolutely love the current Germany/Sweden meta, let me tell you.
I love how top tier is entirely decided by MBT speed. If your quick you can get to early spots, rush lanes etc. What can you do in the Challengers? Nothing.
Every time im against Germany/Sweden, half of my games I just 1DL. Im not spending half my game slowly driving to a spot, get rushed by feral STRV 122s/2A7s as they completely negate L27A1 and then proceed to erase me.
I can not in good faith recommend playing any of the 11.3+ Challengers to anyone. They are unfit to be considered 11.3/11.7 worthy.
I like playing them, then I actually get into a match then I instantly loose my will to play CR2s. No other tech tree is lucrative enough for me to get/grind out. I want to play 11.3 USA but im not playing USA top tier given the current win rate USA has.
Yeah… Ive taken to mostly playing 10.3 instead of 11.3. Which is a real shame because I really like the Challenger 2. Its just too vulnerable to be considered competitive, and what advantages it had are now gone. The 11.7 Challenger 2s are okay, but barely worthy of a higher BR. The Challenger 3 feels totally pointless.
If only we could get a tank that was better from the commonwealth that isn’t a T90
But i doubt it
Only if we could get the Challenger 2 fixed :D
Ha
I like 10.3 Britain but Im slowly getting more aggravated with Challenger Mk3. Its in a good spot, but I think the maps are the problem.
I still feel like im forced to go find a hill and snipe with Mk3. Then when I die, I respawn in T90 and usually do better in the T90 then I do the MK3. I don’t enjoy russian vehicles and don’t like the T90 yet I simply drive forward with my head cut off and I feel like I do better in it.
Its my most played vehicle in RB, I have decent stats in it, but i’m not enjoying my experience since the recent update.
Yeah, I agree there. Also a lot of really annoying shell sponges at 10.3 Constantly find myself just getting “hits” against targets like 2S38s and Wolfpacks. Not too mention the constant uptiers.
Almost on principle though I wont research the T-90.
I guess getting use to the old 10.3 mm definitely plays a part. With the recent influx of 11.0/11.3 premiums and 11.3 having proper MM. 10.3 is finally getting the uptier experience.
While the Mk3 can still do amazing in 11.3 games with L26, if I find myself in a 11.0/11.3 game I almost exclusively just spawn Stormer and only AA.
I don’t feel like facing hordes of Type 90s and M1A1s in the Mk3. especially in a 11.3 uptier I almost view the Mk3 as a CR2. It slowest compared to 11.3 MBTs, your armour is now equivalent to Arietes and your reload is beat by Type90s and M1A1s so everything that made your tank decent is now just noncompetitive at 11.3 matches.
Uptiers are generally going to feel that way regardless of BR. Its stings more at 10.3 since only after the recent update 11.0/11.3 games simply didn’t exist, you now actually have to deal with the woes of uptiers whereas before you didn’t.
If they increased the ready rack that we’ve proven should be more than the 4 we have now, then it would be slightly more competitive, but we’re always going to suffer due to MOD ultimately being cheapskates.
Don’t know if this has been said in this discussion yet but with the new turret layout with all the ammo being single piece ammo in the back of the turret, the lack of a spall liner in the mantlet area combined with the weakness of the mantlet armor and combined with the fact that the ammo rack has no blowout panels unlike any other western mbt with ammo stored in the turret ring means this is currently the only mbt that can be ammo rack killed through a mantlet shot which is ridiculous imo.
like somebody said before, the Challenger 3 TD is currently nothing more than a weaker and slower version of a Leopard 2a5.
Such is the way of the Challenger life.
Why play any CR when you could just go play any other MBT with 3x better speed and mobility, coupled with everything you said. Its not an enjoyable experience.
I refuse, i shall deal with it and suffer, for one day (never) the challenger 2 will finally get the buff it deserves, one day it will stand along side the meta vehicles such as the 2a7 and 122b and till that day comes i will continue to have a skill issue. such is the way of the blissfully ignorant british player. (im also quite new to top tier and still deciding what nation to grind next).
