Can they remove dm53 from it then 11.0 with dm53 too much
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Technically never used dm53 in the first place
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😅 then what did it use ? It’s the prototype right ?
DM73 and more basically
Eh, any loaderside breach shot has a good chance of detonating the ammunition rack.
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DM63 for the prototype and DM83 for the actual CR3
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That’s like saying the T-72A plays like a T-90M, therefore the T-72A could do fine at 12.0 if people just play it ‘‘correctly’’.
I don’t see any reason why someone would pick a Challenger 3 TD over a M1A2 Abrams at the same BR.
Correct me if I’m wrong, but DM63 would offer no different performance to DM53 in War Thunder.
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it may provide improved survivability by being inert. Which would mitigate the lack of armour, spall liners and blow out panels a bit
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I’ve got a strong feeling Gaijin won’t model that.
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as much as i hate that it got removed i cant be that mad cause after all the CR3 TD (AKA CR2 LEP irl) doesn’t have it, so more historical accuracy (as much as it does suck)
not actually installed as in on CR3 TD (CR2 LEP irl). The main production one will have them, and allegedly the hull storage racks will too. Some something about that on reddit by some guy saying ‘Cant confirm or deny’ so maybe he works on it but idk.
At least we have turret and UFP spall liner but yeah 0 armor and no side liners
Updated DMs are sill coming to top tier MBTs. The hull racks even back on Chieftain in the 70s were wet and whatnot. If shrapnel (not direct hit ie leftover penetrator) hit it and perforated it the charges inside would be wetted and not go off.
for in game modeling i think the armor bins should be red like blowout panels so if hit the ammos deleted and bin [armor] destroyed but you survive. But not in a million years thats implemented.
correct the CR 3TD has a UFP spall liner like CR2s but does nothing anyway
Yes. There used to be a bug where even the ammo (ie projectile, sabot and hesh) would detonate when hit.
on topic of this modern nato propellants (ie abrams and leo2) dont detonate from anything other than primer. luckily thats not added yet
Exactly. CR3 TD does have a machine gun in game and at no point with aced crews does CR3TD shoot higher volumes of shells in any given amount of time. (did some graphs and maths for myself)
It does have dual gen 3 thermals which is quite good so it would be better than CR1 Mk.3 but I see what you’re saying. They cant put it down cause ‘Dual gen 3 thermals with L55 DM53’. Should probably go down but all CR2s should too. They shouldn’t have moved during the decompression.
As on russian top tier tanks, IE 90M and 80 BVM the ERA will tumble apfsds. At least with Relikt but ive had it happen with kontakt5 on lower BR vehicles. The ERA on 2F and 2TES barely has that effect but it has happened to me (I have all 3 CR2s spaded). Also provides near excellent protection to autocannons (at least TES with its extra aluminium plate) but CR3 gets idler shotted by them.
Coming from 4000 hour brit main ground only, CR3 definitely the worst. No debate dude sorry.
no it is absolutely not able to do the same things.
-L55 is less accurate than L30 [tested and experienced this]
-Shot into thin ahh wide ahh mantlet basically insta kills u (very rare on CR2) [ive had this happen]
-every top tier tank has thicc turret cheeks (except like raam or ariete) so that doesnt count
-only a tiny bit lighter than regular 2 (without its Dorchester 2E ofc) so technically better but not enough to notice (Hp/t barely different whatsoever)
-turret being angled even 30 degrees sometimes less allows sides to be penetrated leading to instant death cause no spall liner [ive had this happen]
Yeah nearly any shot into the right half of the mantlet (left if youre it) will detonate the ammo. i tested this with protection analysis with every KE round from every 11.7+. (and had it happen many times)
I also prefer normal chally 2s cause gen 2 thermals is fine and while sure not having a CITV isnt great (especially when almost all other tanks do), and the L30 is laser beam accurate while with 7 shots cant hit abrams mantlet at 1200m. (which is miserable compared to L30 nailing narrower russian ones at 1600+). and ofc theres the reload speed that comes with CR2s.
still ok deff still need to play it but id say not as good.
What top tier NATO MBTs do you have to compare it to?
also tanks can be more versatile than youd think so they can all sort of do the same things: CR1s and 2s can be played hyperaggressive W key. Its rare that it works and hard to do but it is possible. So you COULD say its like an abrams in that way a lil bit but ultimately NO.
DM73, KE2020NEO, DM11 programmable (not stock DM11 i just forget the A# atm)
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Yes, correct. DM63 is the same KE dart it just uses temperature independent propellant.
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