Challenger 3 TD Modification

Well. New SPAA are coming this major update, just no idea who besides Sweden and China are getting them and no idea if theyll be any good or not.

But yeah. I mostly just play 10.3 these days, if I touch ground at all. Which is a shame, because I love how the CR2 looks. Though 11.7 is okay-ish for downtiers

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Is it this thing? (Like a L55 120 or 130 with autoloader)

by now it has been said to be true. the british military website says this will also come with FCS. my biggest question is why no blowout panels and why no lws? i swear they are making the british tanks the worst
i hope they fix the chally 3 so its more realistic. someone should put in a report and see what they say

facts

It had LWS, until someone realised they were just mockups for what were planned and not actually installed on the CR3(TD) and so got removed.

I dont think it will get any buffs, only more nerfs. we are now just waiting for the CR3(P) maybe then we can have a top tier tank, with a top tier shell and this magical thing i’ve heard other nations talking about called “armooour” or something like that, never heard of it before and so I dont know how spell it :P

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hopefully. whoever said it should be remove is probably a random russian main. gajin has to add it back to actually make it more realistic

Yeah, CR3(TD) should have been what was proposed for the CR3 (1500 HP engine, LWS, etc etc)

CR3(P) should have been what is actually happening right now(1200 HP engine, etc etc)

CR3 is whatever actually enters service.

CR3(TD) was the biggest waste of time the devs have ever done. Literally the weakest tank at top tier by far.

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btw the challenger three should have blowout panels. is the armor around the ammo blowout panels? if so why is it not red like the others, also where are all the fcs and electronic equipment liek on the leopard.

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Probably because blowout panels were only planned back in 2019 and not actually installed to the tank. Much like the fact we have no armour or spall liners either

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spall lines?
also i does have a turret basket and should have fcs and electronic equipment
and the armor around all the propellants should do something against 20mm cannons

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They catch the shrapnel produced by shells that pen, reducing the internal damage, especially to crew. CR3 doesnt have any bar like 1 panel or something. Basically, increases the chance of a one shot signifcantly. CR2 is also missing quite a bit too.

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yea.all the sabot shells have no explosive powder in them, so you cant ammorack using them. the hesh is a plastic explosive, like c4. c4 needs a certain electrical pulse to detonate. so the only way challengers can actually be ammoracked is the charges

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It certainly has its issues but I don’t think it’ll ever be as bad or worse than the Ra’am (especially with the current Ammo Bug, where all the ammo is stored Willy Nilly in every rack around the tank regardless of how much you take).

The tech demonstrator dosen’t have blowout panels as the design wasn’t finalised at that point, the real Challenger 3 does have them.

In terms of spall liners, theres some evidence that TD turret had them but once again its just a tech demonstrator.

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It’s funny that everyone thinks this is the worst Challenger when it’s actually pretty good. I would say it’s on par with the normal Challenger 2 easily. Atleast it’s not overweight like the TES/OES.

Is has less armour and spall liners

Slower RoF (though bigger ready rack)

equal mobility

no LWR

No MG

Its a DM53 slinger, thats it, That is the entire reason for it being any higher than 10.7. If it was firing L26 instead of DM53, it would be weaker than the Challenger Mk3.

its time for the CR3(P) that actually has armour, spall liners, LWR, etc etc. An actually usable tank. Because neither the CR3(TD) nor any of the CR2s should be above 11.7, could easily drop them all to 11.3

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I think you are just playing it wrong or something. Sure it’s slow for a MBT (Still the fastest after the 2E) and it’s still a Challenger with bad armor except turret cheeks but it easily can do the same thing as any of the other Challenger 2s

If it had a 5 second reload it would be better than the normal Challengers, but with 6 its kind of a sidegrade. The entire benefit is the much bigger ready rack, but the longer reload makes that pointless.

People overestimate a lot how much penetration matters at top tier, as long as you have 550+mm you really dont feel much difference as you’re always shooting weak spots anyway. Therefore I much prefer the normal Chally 2s, you also can’t get ammoracked through the mantlet with them.

The Chally 3TD is still a good 11.7 though, it just needs some practice

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It plays the same as any other NATO MBT. There is no difference.

thats a huge simplification

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