Challenger 3 TD Modification

Certainly. And that makes sense. Its their game, they made it, we’re not entitled to whatever we want. But this is beyond that. This is not making the game properly and that we should have right to. Plus, as i said majority nations cry and get stuff reverted. So can we, I hope.

And this is where I feel alone. Other nations have. They do. They will. And it works. Why cant we? Why wouldnt it work for us? “all we can do”. But its not working. I think we need to have faith. We need to try something different.
(IDK who Gunjob is)
From my point of view as ground only players its only been darker and darker times since I joined. I have seen not 1 victory for ground; at least one not major enough to matter. At the very least we could all fight for the same thing at once. Surely like 1000 people (i really dont know how big brit ground community is) all posting about CR3 would get it changed quickly?

For the LWR Someone put a comment somewhere saying it should have it and boom, gone. 1 comment on a post and gone but us, thousands of comments with sources, and nothing.

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It extends to things like default loadout choices. Why the hell does the FGR 1 and 2 have 2x aim-9D as their stock weapons at 12.0? Why is the F-4JUK at 12 when the F-4S is better in every regard?

I’ve seen you talk about these things before, but I guess I’m just in a venting mood.

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I got reply out of another mod. But they said things like historical will be less prioritised.

The scimitar and fox had their turret rotation nerfed because somone felt that it was too high.

https://community.gaijin.net/issues/p/warthunder/i/RuPCHKHo71e6

yea.

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The MOD are very secretive and try their very very best to keep everything hush hush unless they want people to know. Getting facts about vehicles is literally impossible for most things, most of the Chieftain and Challenger 1 is still classified and tbey will still refuse questions on it.

Anyone who’s made it through the APDS BRs is already one of the more stubborn or skilled players, thats why Britain just doesnt get played much. So we just dont have that community weight behind us. Things like the Leopards are in most trees and the Abrams is in the US TT which is the most popular, so when they complain, gaijin listens. But the CR2. Not many people play it and those that do, do well. So to Gaijins stat balancing, it doesnt need fixing.

Its a real shame.

Tech mod, does a LOT of the reporting/nudging of reports for British stuff. Mostly air though.

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I read into the IRL charge bins and they should basically be immune. ‘BUt FOr BallANCe wE cAnt.’ At the very least you can make it better!!
I noticed L27A1 postpen does suck as well. Like terrible. Might go back to L23A1 cause that is a nuke shell or try L26 and see how that does out of the L30

They will nerf east with 1 comment or complaint but takes 3 years to buff.

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and FA2 and F3 Late still have 9Ls stock, but the ICE for example has 9Li

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@nbeckberger
Hindsight bias.
Gaijin likes all the vehicles they add, and Challenger 3 TD originally had features Gaijin thought was true: Blow out panels and 1500HP engine; Bug reporters proved those were wrong and Gaijin fixed the errors which reduced its BR.

In HINDSIGHT the other Challenger 3s made are better, but that’s hindsight.
Compare the other Challenger 3s to the Challenger 3 TD on introduction, not the current Challenger 3 TD.

Challenger 3 production will take the longest to research, and other prototypes are unknown in research time, so be patient.
The harder the info is to get the longer development will take.

What is it supposed to allegedly be over 622mm at 2km? [NATO 60 degree plate test.]
And can you prove it via Willi Odermatt’s equation?


ERA is supposed to be 3000mm against HEAT?

I just unlocked the jaguar and tbh, I’m not going to bother with it. No stock flares or missiles or bombs at 9.7 just seems a bit much and not fun. :/

L27A1 you can read here:

https://community.gaijin.net/issues/p/warthunder/i/bMbEJftRqiSp

The ERA should be a lot stronger, you can read here:

https://community.gaijin.net/issues/p/warthunder/i/hUjNza9bvJyP

But there are loads of other reports for the external armour

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Wow ok. I have researched every single tank in the brit ground tree. I have them all spaded except SPAA and all the chall 2s and 3. I only have 2 ground prems, cent mk2 and black prince. I manually researched the whole rest of the TT. and through like the year and a hal+ ive been playing ive seen so much injustice. And with all the things you and CHARM 3 just listed… Wow. Britain has it all hell ground or air.
I might get this taken down or get banned for saying this but
What about review bombing? I know the WT community did it years back to disastrous effect.

Why the hell the Jags dont have stock bombs is beyond me, but I rather enjoy the Jags actually, though Im a mud mover in SB, wouldnt touch them in RB though.

The actual thing doesn’t exist yet, and at the time the TD was added (Dec 2023) the CR3 prototypes had yet to be announced, (The first prototype was revealed in April 2024)

This is gaijin’s F U. They add the weakest, shittiest, lamest possible thing they can just to say we added something because they had to. CR3 is already in service IRL and have had 4 delivered. We know confirmed 1500HP, APS, LWS, Spall liners. But they went with the 2016 prototype. They could easily fix it all. Simple name change and then maybe somewhat complicated modeling.

The chally 2’s are good tanks in game but u need a lot of skill. It required alot of fast reactions, scanning your surroundings and distance, prioritising targets.

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Yeah this is what Im bad at, though GRB is not my main gamemode, so I forgive myself for not being good at it, but really doesnt help that they are made to be the equivalent of a hard mode