Yeah, Id still choose the Challenger DS over it. Especially if they ever fix the CR1s.
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I take a Scimitar into top tier over the CR3 its that bad, and I do better in the scimitar
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Exactly. Why do we let them get away with stunts like this? Why do we sit and watch silently? Meanwhile the other nations cry and revolt when their tank is getting a new module/ nerfed in any way, until it gets reverted. (At least mostly) Why don’t we even try to do that?
British ground players. What are we doing? Tell your friends. Tell British ground players. Spread the word. We cannot just stand by and do nothing while they do this. It vexes me that we do nothing.
British ground community stand together! Rise up!
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I was thinking the same thing. But don’t get your hopes up. Itl never happen because ‘oh DM53 and L55 with dual Gen 3 thermals’
Yeah. It’s already lower then all other L55s but I doubt they’ll put it down cause of that and then 3 thermals
Fix the challengers? Is there some sort of glitch or do you mean the weak ahh UFP and breach area?
Main 2 buffs for the Challenger 1
- 20+ round first stage ammo rack up from the current 4
- Gen 2 Thermals (it has the same thermals as the Challenger 2)
You also ahve the DS missing the extra armour it actually deployed to Op Granby with
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The extra armor is useless frankly and a waste of weight. And historically the chally 1s didn’t have the same thermals; they had TOGS 1, chally 2 has TOGS 2
Challenger 1, Challenger 2 and TIALD all use the thermal imager.
Yes TOGS is the thermal imager. They upgraded it to TOGS 2 for the challenger 2
They did upgraded to TOGS II. But both use TICM II.
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The Challenger 3 TD physically lacks the laser warning equipment that’s required.
If the Challenger 3 TD ever had laser warning in-game it was always incorrect.
Also Britain getting the prototype is not anti-Britain.
The fact though they added the Tech Demonstrator instead of the prototype that had things like Armour, Spall liners, ERA, and LWR shows they wanted to add the weakest possible version of the CR3.
Given it has a 6 second reload and ariete which is overall stronger these days has a 5 second reload as well…
its hard to feel anything but the fact the CR3 was designed to be a bad addition.
Im only using it at the moment to spade it, as soon as that happens, Im going back to use the CR2s
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Nothing is added instead of anything else.
It was added cause they like the tank.
Right, they added a tank significantly weaker than anything else at top tier and is now by far our weakest Rank VIII tank. Definetly needs a BR drop or 5 second reload now for it to be even slightly competitive.
And they still wont fix the CR2s
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Amen brother. Spot on. Exactly right on. Well said. So perfect.
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No. They added it cause they had to add something along with the other nation top tier MBTS. (The SEP V2, Leopard 2A7v, T90M) Even for them not adding something to Britain would be too far. They only did it cause they had to and because they hate Britain, and as @Morvran perfectly said, they added the weakest possible one.
Even if thats not true, if they liked it they’d at least try to make it good/ strong/ competitive, let alone it originally sucking then being NERFED? And you’re out here saying they liked it. SMH.
WDYM fix challenger 2s? Their front plates have way better effective thickness then CR1s, turret armor and mantlet is acceptable and quite good, very survivable tank. IK I asked this for CR1 and said I dont see anything but seriously this time whats wrong with CR1?
Its a little out of date but:
In short.
- 4 round ready rack should be 20+
- There is a literal hole in the gun breach
- Its missing loads of armour
- Its misisng spall liners
- The ERA should be about 4x more effective than it is currently on things like the TES
- They could all receive dozer blades (more of a gameplay thing than anything else, but would be fun)
- Even L27A1 is technically underperforming currently in terms of pen (not by much, but every little helps) and there be might some issue with post pen damage.
(and failing all that, BR does exist for balance too)
The main fix for the CR1 is the ammo rack, rest of its fairly decent for the BR, but still annoying to go from 5 second reload to 7.5 second reload after a few rounds and no one else has that nerf.
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