Challenger 3 MBT - Technical Data and Discussion

Thats whatbi found Challenger 3 MBT - Technical Data and Discussion - #566 by Battered_Walrus

But its nothing installed yet

The RWS is the same. For some reason I thought he was talking about the LWS

Probably mount’s like Ajax’s RWS where it replaces the commander’s sight.

It isn’t an issue for the T-55’s either as they get their first stage ammo from the hull storage. Despite being potentially more difficult to access.

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SCaBLjg6No0 4:58 the rear/side of the turret should be the ready racks and the hull is a secondary storage like in the leopards for example. no way the hulls is the first stage its much harder to reach.

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Yeah, I agree with you. The game models them this way though. So they either need to change the Challengers to how they should be with the back of the turret ammo as part of the first stage, or they need to be more consistent with what is considered first stage. It is the same in at least 3 of the T-55 variants.

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@Astro_Kayak
AFAIK irl loaders prefer hull rack as turret is quite cramped. Also the commander versions of T-54/55 reduce turret racks for installation of better radio, which makes reasonable that hull rack is become primary rack.

Ok, but if it is reasonable for the T-54/55 and T-62 variants why isn’t it the same for the Challengers? There are videos of Challenger loaders taking rounds from the rack at the back of the turret when firing.

Also the game doesn’t consider the command tanks as far as I am aware.

While it is technically a different tank the T-62 has the same thing where the hull rack is considered the ready rack in game, however the manual for the T-62 calls the two rounds in the turrent rack the ready rack.

My point is that if it is allowed for the T-54, T-55, T-62, and the Chieftains why is not the same for the Challengers? And while an arguement in the past could be made for the Challengers having a reduced ready rack as they had the fastest reload at their br this is no longer the case. And so the Challengers need to have their ready rack increased to be on par with the other tanks they are facing.

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Look at who made the T 54/55 and T 62, Russia, look who made the Challenger 2, Britain. This is another simple case of Anti-Britain bias

The turret cheeks look way more angled now

I made this regarding the future of the british tech tree, would be great to get some oppinions. Future of British Ground Top Tier

Yeah recharge of ready rack or number of 1st stage ammo should be increased. Reload should be brought down to the correct 3-4secs for ace crew as seen in this video

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I wonder if it the final version will get more turret armour like the model Grant Shapps showed off.

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