Challenger 3 MBT - Technical Data and Discussion

I’ve seen bug reports that still say it’s worse

It could be due to it being a tech demonstrator and therefore maybe not having real armour, but for the purpose of the game that would be pointless

the turret cheeks (the only part modeled of actually having decent protection) have less milimeters of protection than all the other chally 2 mbts

The Challenger 3’s TDs turret cheeks (and entire turret) don’t actually match its accurate visual model.

The Chally 3 TD has got to be the most lazily modelled tank in the game, and I imagine that has a negative effect on its protection

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Oh I didn’t know that, I usually don’t pay attention to the 3 TD(I don’t ever run it) cuz of how badly it’s modeled

I was at tankfest earlier this year and spoke to the commander of Megatron at the time who is on the ATDU team and he confirmed what any 10 minute google search will tell you that 1500hp is and was the outline for challenger 3

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Well the initial google result quotes wikipedia’s 1500hp, which itself has a single article as a source and that article is paywalled.

Googling the CV12-9A hp instead has a reddit post with the QRH twitter screenshot, a WT forum post, the CV-12 datasheet, a WT bug report (saying it should be 1200hp), and then the parliament question where it’s stated that the 9A produces 1200hp. There’s also a result for a UK Defence Journal article that states 1200hp.

TL;DR: a 10 minute google search gives you conflicting answers and has done for a good while.

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While we still talking about the engine, did anyone notice that the damage model is still the CR2 one, which doesn’t even align with the actual model, which make it doesn’t get any better and even worse protection compared to CR2, and it’s been reported and accepted for 8 months and nothing happened

The purpose of Challenger 3 in war thunder is to explode and prove it is worthless against T72s, it doesn’t need a damage model.

Its been mentioned a lot you have talked about it here aswell

Spoiler

The challenger 3 isn’t in the game, that is the tech demonstrator, it is not the same tank. The British army’s atdu only just got hold of the challenger 3 very recently and so the final specification is still being worked on and developed and isn’t 100% concrete and final yet. This thread is for that tank not the tech dem that is currently in the game

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That is true, however the Challenger 3 TD (LEP) does have a slightly different turret design to the CR2

The CR3TDs turret DM is the same as the CR2, even though like I said they’re slightly different.

The characteristics of certain British vehicles are completely inaccurate. I’m aware the Armour of one the Challenger models particularly the Mantlet/Breach area is only half the size or something similar. The OP has posted it multiple times and always ends up being closed. The turret traverse of the CH2 is also wrong as it has been proven a number of times to be a fair bit faster.

Take a quick look at the models and you can see they are unfinished.

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Everyone except Gaijin seems keenly aware of the issues at this point. Though perhaps Gaijin is also equally aware, otherwise how would they ignore us so soundly

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The turret rotation speed inaccuracy was posted on reddit 6 years ago.

Their communication with the community is only 1-way when it suits them. Zero transparency on a lack of effort in these cases.

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was I saying anything about the turret or was I simply saying to Pepper that this might be the wrong thread for him to discuss the 3TD. What are you trying to correct me on here? Think about whether your reply actually says anything meaningful next time

No clue if there have been posted before, but heres some of the early (2016) Challenger 2 LEP proposals



Once again, these are from 2016, not recently

However, they do show some interesting info about the CR2 LEP’s development which ended up as the Chally 3

As we can now see, the Chally 3 seems to actually be more ambitious than what is presented here.

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MOD: too expensive

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They literally went for Rhinmetall’s more expensive bid for an entirely new turret.

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Talking about price they could have gone for the cheapest option of leopards. That were offered

But of course that would have resulted in the possible lose of their own tank production/development etc.

Sometimes at one point its not all about the price and they have to choose “the better evil”