apparently works out about the same after you account for the new ammunition stowage and subsystems
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As far as I’m aware the listed weight for the Challenger 3 is 66 tonnes
That’s what is listed on the British Army website, the Challenger 2 has a combat weight of 62.5 - 64 tonnes without added armour
That thing is a speculated weight, it is there for years.
Yet another way in which they neglected Challenger 3 (TD);
They made a new, larger and more detailed L/55-L/55A1 module model which they gave to every Leopard tank…
Yet they couldn’t even bother to copy-paste it into Challenger 33 (TD) lmao
If you are wondering, tne new gun module model is actually a big deal; since it’s much larger, it’s significantly better at catching spall and even absorbing entire shots. But I guess Challenger 3 (TD) could not even benefit from that.
I just made a bug report, but I don’t expect it to get anywhere.
https://community.gaijin.net/issues/p/warthunder/i/ygfhh4VJaPxc
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wait yall get a new breach model?, dude that’s great that means it will eat more spall now i want that in my 2A7V
2A7V has it already, and it sometimes stops even full shells now!
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time to play it that sounds like fun
Bug report for the laser warning that it shouldn’t have
https://community.gaijin.net/issues/p/warthunder/i/cFGEAyRPu5Rj
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you are late to the party, there are at least 2 i have seen.
I searched on the community bug report website and didn’t see anything
Hmm, let me check
Well, i also cant find them. Then they probably got deleted or they are lost in the oh so great search function.
The search function sucks ass so probably
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They never should have added the 3TD, if they want it to be realistic they should just get rid of the entire turrets armour
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At this point just remove the challenger 3 from the game, basically nothing is confirmed yet as its still in testing
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It’d still be made up of stacked steel or armour plates to simulate the additional weight on the cheeks anyway
At this point we should see how many features we can get removed from the 3TD by using the double standard Gaijin have set.
Time to bug report that it has no composite armour.
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Honestly now Im not even gonna touch the damn thing…
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I’ve already removed it from the lineup and added the base challenger 2 instead, less chance of getting ammo racked and a spall liner. Yeh the round isn’t as good but who gives a **** when you’ve got the same mobility, better survivability and you’ve gotta aim for weak points still anyway.
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The Challenger 3 TD is worse than the 11.3 Challenger in my opinion now, its genuinely a useless top tier
The Black Knight and 2E are infintely better than the 3TD
The 3TD is now slower, worse survivability (ammo in turret without blowout panels), longer reload, worse turret armour etc…
Especially considering the normal Chally 2’s got their ammunition moved to a better location, there is literally no reason to play the 3TD now
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