Challenger 3 MBT - Technical Data and Discussion

Follow the Crazed Otter Guide to whether Gaijin will do Something. CROTGOGS for short.

  1. Is it Russian? If not. Then No.

  2. Will they make more than a passing effort to get it right? Refer to Q1.

  3. Will they accept primary sources existing that support X or Y characteristic? Refer to Q1.

  4. Will they ensure that they do not artificially make stuff up to nerf a vehicle (cough - turret baskets on vehicles that don’t have them - for example)? Refer to Q1.

  5. Can they be trusted not to make a completed dog’s breakfast of any British vehicle, particularly the Challenger 2 and it’s various forms? Refer to… you get the idea.

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Unfortunately, this is likely going to happen against Relikt plastered T72s. Likely not intentionally, but because it’s convenient to be lazy around modeling the nuances of ERA against kinetic penetrators when it favours a major tree to do so. Plenty of coin from major trees, less so minor trees. Doesn’t help Germany’s paying playerbase is fumbling about with tigors, instead of up at the higher echelons with leopards.

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Go away with your marketing lie :o

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Hearing you guys talk, Challenger 3 is gonna be more like Challenge #3 🗿

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To be fair - Gaijins prior behaviour and attitude aren’t exactly filling us with much confidence…

Just look at the farcical response to the report for L27 for example. ‘Erm - we test it in-game and it not work.’

BECAUSE YOUR IN-GAME FIGURES ARE COMPELTELY MADE-UP? Dur!

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*are not

L27A1 is missing some of its basic penetration before ERA is concerned

and Texolite is overperforming, possibly by a very large margin on T-80U

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Quite right - I have edited to reflect. That’ll teach me for hammering the keyboard too furiously.

That second sentence sounds wrong…

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They added the Abrams so they can pretend the CR3 doesnt exist

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“lalalalalaaaa we can’t hear you”

_Some gaijin dev probably

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Challenger3 is marketing lie

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Dm83 already have information of it being able to pen Relikt so it won’t be a issue also it’s like 900mm long lmao it would be fine

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Added the Abrams so they can pretend they listened to Australians, and ignore the chally 3.

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Yeah see, we thought the exact same thing with the L27a1 being able to pen K5, but oh boy were we wrong. Gaijin don’t give a ****. we gave a good couple sources that state that L27a1 can pen a T80 with K5, but gajin denied it saying that it cant pen a T80 in game even without the ERA, so it cant be true.

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Sounds like a clear marketing lie. It cant even pen K5 according to Gaijins Sekrit docs

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Propaganda confirmed

“Sub trees doesn’t mean that local vehicles aren’t being considered”
Probably Smin or another manager/moderator right before gaijin decides to not add anything non copypaste to a tree for the following 3,5 years

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Also doesn’t help they ignored adding our Abrams to the Brits over the periods of famine, yet now we have something else to add suddenly the copy paste shows up. It would be a credible argument if over the periods of neglect they used the subtree, but it never is.

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