Challenger 3 MBT - Technical Data and Discussion

Modern British Army vehicle engines are measured using DIN or ISO standards rather than our own BSS standard, so if they state it has 1500hp that is likely not going to see a furthur increase

The modern CV12 datasheet uses the ISO 14396:2002 standard for example

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yeah, i tried to look up the ISO standard but all the documentation needs to be paid for.

but then I have to wonder how it links back to the doc that got the CV12 buffed in-game, like the ISO datasheet still has a 1200hp row in the table for example

Atleast we could have ERA → ARA or CLARA on the Puma :))))

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It would be nice if the Ajax could have optional era too

even if it did gaijin would make the ERA have 5mm of KE protection and 100mm of CE protection

Still more than it’s got currently. So as it’s not fast. Let’s make it tanky (or at least tankier)

in all fairness it got a huge buff recently with the bmpt moving up

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Those are just the stated performance statistics for different engine ratings, they don’t directly relate to how much horsepower the engine produces when in the tank.

ISO is also a different standard to DIN, which is what the CV12 has it’s engine power modelled off ingame now

my point was more related to what hp it could/would get in game, seeing as the hp uplift report was accepted based on the leo 2s using the DIN measured hp (so CV12 should also use its DIN rated power)

The horsepower will be whatever RBSL or the MOD say it is, unless they provide specific DIN horsepower values and then they can use those.

We got the engine power increased for the CV12 as the brochures specifically stated the BSS AND DIN horsepower values together, which is rare for the British armoured vehicle brochures.

Ingame the CR3 will have at least 1314 hp, anything more that that and it will just be whatever primary sources state it is. If they say it’s 1500hp, it will be that ingame, regardless if it’s DIN or not. We cannot for example just apply a blanket horsepower increase to that 1500hp just beause it isn’t DIN, you would need the specific measured DIN values to do that.

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It should probably be an engine upgrade step when spading it.

That would make sense for some of the Challenger 2 variants ingame, as they only recieved HAAIP later on in their lives. However, every CR3 will have had HAAIP from the start so imo they should just get it from the get go.

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1500hp would be the net power, like 1200hp is now. So if you wanted gross power it would be 1600

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Just unlocked CR3 TD yesterday

My first impressions are… whats even the point in it?

Feels absolutly awful to play, that gun mantlet that leads straight into the blow out paneless ammo rack, the messed up x-ray armour layout that doesnt even line up with the physical model

The tank is basically empty due to the lack of spall liners, no add on armour, poor reload

It feels like im playing a light tank with a broken engine

Does it get better once you get DM53? Because right now I’m considering just taking it off and going back to 11.7

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the issue is it keeps the loading stats of the Leo 2s despite being nowhere near as mobile or well protected.

unless you want to run the Harrier GR.7 as CAS I’d stick at 11.7.

gaijin did briefly fix the damage model being the CR2s but then the fix was undone with the mantlet rework and hasn’t been addressed since (which gives little hope for any chance of a reload buff and/or BR asjustment either

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That’s just because dm53 is the best round in game lmao all of the l55 dm53 tanks get a 6s reload and 12.7 🤷‍♀️

Leo 2A5 gets the same 6s on its L/44, as does 2A5NL and more interestingly the Strv 122Bs with sub-600mm pen. US gets 5s on its L/44s, Arietes get 5s on their L/44s, both with DM53 or equivalent afaik, which is only ~25-30mm worse base pen to the L/55 DM53?

So its a Leo 2/Not Leo 2 divide rather than a barrel length divide, or the 2A5 and more notably the 122s would also have 5s.

Wrong

oardefault~2

Also wrong

It’s genuinely impressive how much incorrect information you managed to fit in such a short message, congratulations.

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Was 6s but the stats on it was so ass they moved it down but leopards in general even if some preform worse then others they are the perfect mix of everything for a tank

One off tank but true I did forget about the 292

Also yk aretes are 12.3 I was mainly talking about leopards but completely forgot chally 3 was that much lower