Talking about an indigenous design. I was also unhappy with the location of the AIM, C2 and 2A4M but those aren’t indigenously designed tanks, mostly heavy modifications on the Leo end and American done mods for the AIM
Hunter Mk.58 then…
That was one I was angry at but “gERmAnY sUfFerS”
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You missed the whole point. It’s now been censored as we knew it would be.
We have top tier tanks. M1, T-80 and Leopard 2A7 variants.
In the real world the T-90, T-80BVM would be some of the worst tanks in game. In real world performance the list would look like this
Leopard 2A7 (variants) CR3 (Final)
Leopard 2A6 (variants) M1A2 SEP
Leclerc/CR2/Merkava
T-90M/ZTZ
Arriete.
This is because NATO tanks if modelled correctly have higher fire rates, superior armour packages, superior ammunition and greater accuracy.
In game though instead of that Leopard 2A7 just absorbing rounds shot by a T-90M it is easilly penetrated.
The M1A2 has it’s hilariously modelled turret ring weakness.
Russian tanks have ERA and that ERA K5 and above is massively overperforming compared to the real world. However that is not how it’s modelled in game.
This is why and seeing whom Gaijin choose to sponsor outwith the playing community it leads to 2 potential outcomes.
Gaijin realises Russian tanks must be competitive for game balance and throttles back NATO tanks to make the game fun and “balanced”
Or Gaijin knowingly inflate the abilities performance of Russian modern weapon systems using flimsy sources and double standards guaranteeing the Russian thing is at least as good as the NATO thing.
Doing this as they are financially incentivised to do so.
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I am not sure abiut c2 right now.
But 2a4m can, was completly designed and built by germany kmw. Canada didnt even habe hands on the modification
Ok
This is the Challenger 3 thread
Hey i didnt start it
Challenger 3 with the new “EPSOM” composite armour, now covering the LFP!
This lower plate addon also covers part of the UFP, making it even thicker.
Also note, the side turret is redesigned which I believe is to allow trophy to be fitted.
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We are the only nation without a single rank 8 ground vehicle at the moment
Challenger 2E/BN are slight upgrades to the 4 CR2s in Rank 7. They have been placed at Rank 8 for "Reasons " but strictly speaking should be Rank 7 with the rest.
Challenger 3TD should just be deleted at this point. Its not worth the storage space and is weaker than even the base Challenger 2 at Rank 7
The ADATS is a 2S6 equivalent and should be Rank 7
Sky Sabre doesnt currently work, it misses targets or does no damage when you finally manage to hit something with it.
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Then the sentence should be “In my opinion, we are the only…”.
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Ive given up trying to even finish spade it. It cannot even shoot down drones currently
I mean you can say this for MBTs of other nations as well. Using that logic the M1A2s are also only slight upgrades or even sidegrades (cough SEPv2) to the M1A1 HC and thus aren’t truely rank 8.
Could I point you here: Sky Sabre/Land Ceptor - Technical data and discussion - #185 by Inverse_Hair_Law
Whatever the stats say, it definitely isn’t working correctly.
Then increase them to rank 8.
The difference is the Challenger 2s are on par if not weaker than the M1A1s at 11.3, but are currently at 12.0 because “reasons”
The 11.7 CR2s should probably be 11.3 but the 12.0 ones would still be fine at 11.7.
Only if the M1A2s and Leopard 2A7s moved up at the same time.