Challenger 2E/BN are slight upgrades to the 4 CR2s in Rank 7. They have been placed at Rank 8 for "Reasons " but strictly speaking should be Rank 7 with the rest.
Challenger 3TD should just be deleted at this point. Its not worth the storage space and is weaker than even the base Challenger 2 at Rank 7
The ADATS is a 2S6 equivalent and should be Rank 7
Sky Sabre doesnt currently work, it misses targets or does no damage when you finally manage to hit something with it.
Then the sentence should be “In my opinion, we are the only…”.
Ive given up trying to even finish spade it. It cannot even shoot down drones currently
I mean you can say this for MBTs of other nations as well. Using that logic the M1A2s are also only slight upgrades or even sidegrades (cough SEPv2) to the M1A1 HC and thus aren’t truely rank 8.
Could I point you here: Sky Sabre/Land Ceptor - Technical data and discussion - #185 by Inverse_Hair_Law
Whatever the stats say, it definitely isn’t working correctly.
Then increase them to rank 8.
The difference is the Challenger 2s are on par if not weaker than the M1A1s at 11.3, but are currently at 12.0 because “reasons”
The 11.7 CR2s should probably be 11.3 but the 12.0 ones would still be fine at 11.7.
Only if the M1A2s and Leopard 2A7s moved up at the same time.
The SEPs are fine at 12.0, base M1A2 should move to 12.0 as well, M1A1 HC should lose M829A2 for M829A1 and stay 11.7.
CR2E and BN would be close enough to the M1A1 HCs w/M829A1 in terms of capabilities.
With a weaker shell, then yes, it would be on par ish, especially with CR2 overhaul
Even with the Sky Sabre being broken af and underperforming, its still somehow got the second highest K/D of any rank 8 vehicle
do we have a list of upgrades the challenger 3 has gotten since we first saw it? obviously it got new armor recently but do we know anything about a better engine?
All we know is that it has an “upgraded” engine called the CV-12-9A
We don’t know the exact horsepower, its somewhere between 1200-1500hp.
We know:
The transmission and suspension are also upgraded.
Gaijin:
“1200hp you say as the report for the 1300hp doesnt cover that specific engine.”
:P
But heres hoping that if we ever get the CR3(P) it has a little better acceleration than the current set
They’ll find a way out of it lol
Regardless of the horsepower, the the Challenger 1/2/3s engines have a comparitively high amount of torque for their horsepower. So they’re already underperforming in terms of that, regardless of their horsepower.
The CR3 even if it has 1200hp should still be faster than the CR2 as its got better suspension and a better transmission. However, gaijin are too lazy to model these ingame (look at the Type 10)
Yep, and its not the top speed that bothers me, its the lack of any meaningful torque
acceleration > top speed any day
Yep, agreed.
How much torque should it have? and how much faster would it propel the MBT than the current disaster?
