Challenger 3 MBT - Technical Data and Discussion

No clue if there have been posted before, but heres some of the early (2016) Challenger 2 LEP proposals



Once again, these are from 2016, not recently

However, they do show some interesting info about the CR2 LEP’s development which ended up as the Chally 3

As we can now see, the Chally 3 seems to actually be more ambitious than what is presented here.

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MOD: too expensive

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They literally went for Rhinmetall’s more expensive bid for an entirely new turret.

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Talking about price they could have gone for the cheapest option of leopards. That were offered

But of course that would have resulted in the possible lose of their own tank production/development etc.

Sometimes at one point its not all about the price and they have to choose “the better evil”

There’s also the logistical costs aswell, Challenger 3 is compatible with almost all the logistical equipment from Challenger 2, be it recovery vehicles to turret lifts. More importantly the spares are from UK companies for the most part, so there’s less risk of a Swiss ammunition esque issue of geopolitics effecting requisition.

the swiss only realy produce the anti air ammunition, so that not an issue.
Besides that the ammunition part is pretty redundant since chally 3s use the same ammunition as leopards

That was just an example to illustrate issues that can occur when you import parts etc.

Challenger 3 is that bad I guess…

It’s the worst challenger and never should have been added

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It shouldn’t be.

My point is look how far it’s fallen thanks to Gaijin’s management

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We only need to assemble the L55A1 of Challenger 3, the MTU883 engine of Challenger 2E, and the Iron Fist of Challenger BN together. We will get the best Challenger. Xd

Well, we got 2 of those things at least. Jury still out on the engine though.

i dont think it got the iron fist from the black night iirc i believe its the trophy aps that the merkavas are equipped with but im not 100% so surely someone will confirm

https://x.com/Gabriel64869839/status/1869841617710182826?t=sO5C6akyHTZNLBITUe1rKQ&s=19

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Corners of the turret cheeks look to be a slightly different shape along the bottom edge since the last prototypes

Yeah i noticed that too their is also cables on each side of the turret could be for possibly the LWS are APS Radar ??

Are these the same APS that the Black Night had?

Why is our breach still huge. Why cant we design another gun or barrel or whatever that leaves a small breach/mantlet.

I think we are swapping to Trophy

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Im not totally convinced that is an IRL issue. Gaijin has a lot still to fix with the CR2/CR3 mantlets