The characteristics of certain British vehicles are completely inaccurate. I’m aware the Armour of one the Challenger models particularly the Mantlet/Breach area is only half the size or something similar. The OP has posted it multiple times and always ends up being closed. The turret traverse of the CH2 is also wrong as it has been proven a number of times to be a fair bit faster.
Take a quick look at the models and you can see they are unfinished.
Everyone except Gaijin seems keenly aware of the issues at this point. Though perhaps Gaijin is also equally aware, otherwise how would they ignore us so soundly
The turret rotation speed inaccuracy was posted on reddit 6 years ago.
Their communication with the community is only 1-way when it suits them. Zero transparency on a lack of effort in these cases.
was I saying anything about the turret or was I simply saying to Pepper that this might be the wrong thread for him to discuss the 3TD. What are you trying to correct me on here? Think about whether your reply actually says anything meaningful next time
No clue if there have been posted before, but heres some of the early (2016) Challenger 2 LEP proposals
Once again, these are from 2016, not recently
However, they do show some interesting info about the CR2 LEP’s development which ended up as the Chally 3
As we can now see, the Chally 3 seems to actually be more ambitious than what is presented here.
MOD: too expensive
They literally went for Rhinmetall’s more expensive bid for an entirely new turret.
Talking about price they could have gone for the cheapest option of leopards. That were offered
But of course that would have resulted in the possible lose of their own tank production/development etc.
Sometimes at one point its not all about the price and they have to choose “the better evil”
There’s also the logistical costs aswell, Challenger 3 is compatible with almost all the logistical equipment from Challenger 2, be it recovery vehicles to turret lifts. More importantly the spares are from UK companies for the most part, so there’s less risk of a Swiss ammunition esque issue of geopolitics effecting requisition.
the swiss only realy produce the anti air ammunition, so that not an issue.
Besides that the ammunition part is pretty redundant since chally 3s use the same ammunition as leopards
That was just an example to illustrate issues that can occur when you import parts etc.
It’s the worst challenger and never should have been added
It shouldn’t be.
My point is look how far it’s fallen thanks to Gaijin’s management
We only need to assemble the L55A1 of Challenger 3, the MTU883 engine of Challenger 2E, and the Iron Fist of Challenger BN together. We will get the best Challenger. Xd
Well, we got 2 of those things at least. Jury still out on the engine though.
i dont think it got the iron fist from the black night iirc i believe its the trophy aps that the merkavas are equipped with but im not 100% so surely someone will confirm
Corners of the turret cheeks look to be a slightly different shape along the bottom edge since the last prototypes
Yeah i noticed that too their is also cables on each side of the turret could be for possibly the LWS are APS Radar ??
