Knowing the MoD. They’ll decide on a shell around 2040
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Some of them are both interesting but mostly weird, what we know is that Ke2020NEO officially renamed DM83 has a 760 mm penetrator
Here they are, APFSDS-Tandem
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so they are two different rounds
Is a Tandem APFSDS just a more evolved Anti-Era tip or is there a different reason behind it?
I think we can safely assume that “improved protection” means the armour is more effective at stopping threats.
We know its thicker on the turret (i checked) and hull.
We know the material is different as it uses EPSOM and FARNHAM armour instead of CHOBHAM and DORCHESTER armour types. We can assume these probably have a different array layout as they’re new designs.
Not sure about lighter, but the tank weighs a bit more than the CR2 so probably not, unless the weight is coming from somewhere else.
In short the armour is almost certainly “better” as in it provides more protection, so the tank would be better armoured ingame.
yeah DM83 its subjected to strict rules by germany and EKE its from the UK
its tandem APFSDS, a charge pushes the tip foward triggering ERA and provoking the ERA to just be gone completely and the rest of the penetrator has free way to penetrate
What a time to be alive
Imo the new composite is probably slightly lighter as i would expect a much greater increase in base weight if it wasnt for just how much extra armour were getting alongside the New Gun, Thermals/NVDs and other things that add a fair bit of heft like all the wiring for things like the APS systems, the LWS, ect.
its pretty weird tbh, altough idk if they are going for that proposal tho
“The first example of the Challenger 3 was at the main Rheinmetall Unterlüß facility in Germany where the 120mm smoothbore gun and its suite of ammunition has also been produced. While BAE Systems has been the prime contractor for the ammunition fired by the Challenger 2, it has not been involved in the 120mm EKE programme, according to a company spokesperson.”
Seems like EKE is pretty much a German-only development i.e UK pays Germany (Rheinmetall) to make a new KE projectile for the CR 3.
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damn
Can’t even read the full thing
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Article locked be hind an account just to get stuff wrong anyway
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It’s better to remove the stolen DM53 and adjust the BR to 10.7.
it mainly uses DM63 wich only has a minimal decrease in penetration over DM53 meanwhile germany uses DM73 wich has a minimal increase in penetration, they probably dont wanna add DM63 cuz either they dont have a mechanic for explosion chances of ammo, or they dont do it for sake of balance
read the article it says “while BAE has mbeen the prime contractor for the ammunition fired by the challenger 2, it has not been involved in the 120mm EKE programme” meaning the new shell is not being made directly by the UK
For the sake of balance, it’s better not to have DM53/63. Let this waste go to the BR it should go to.
Damn
Not directly less penetration. Penetrator is the same so the only difference is speed. DM63 is faster at temperatures below ~12°C, and slower above
Yeah that’s what i meant with slightly less i meant like what 9 or 10 mm? I remember i used long rod calculator for this, since it’s like a 20 m/s decrease in velocity