Challenger 2 needs to be brought to developers attention

o7

Gunjob doing gods work

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Nah, we’ll be into space age tech before the British tree gets any love.

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asketh, and Gunjob giveth (attention, at the very least)

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America with some Dart from outerspace vehicle, when we get real British light tanks finally haha

NVM im stoopid :(

Well we did just get the vicker mk11 at 8.7. So that means we aren’t due for another light tank till at least 2025.

Desert Warrior in 2030?
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Depends. For modern vehicles absolutely, but for vehicles in which your target isnt a dot on your TI screen, it does seem a bit excessive to get 5km ranges

I guess i will change it, Now

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You mean you aren’t using your reserve tanks for 5km sniping?

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NVM im stoopid :(

its not a nerf they literally only changed the ranges on the statcard, pen is the same if you look at 2km

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M829A2

heres the old M829A2, same pen at 2km

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Ok that would make sense, im stupid :(

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I am using my Swedish ones 😂

I also wanted to ask: is there any lore reason why Challenger 2E’s hull armor is even worse than the rest of Challenger 2s?

520mm is already too low on Challenger 2s, but… 490 on 2E? Why? Just why? Is this a bug or did this tank somehow have downgraded armor?

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I do not know about anything that would cause this.(maybe once i translate that one russian document i will be able to find anything, but i cant do it rn) Unfortunately, due to it being armor problem, we can either have a shot with comparing it to the normal challys, and it gets passed as a suggestion to be fixed soon tm, it causes armor in the normal challys to get worse, so they match 2E value or it goes nowhere as we need source to prove it. Also fun fact with the CR2 ufp there is a giant dark blue armor part that is not counted in the protection value, just sits here taking space


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(Light blue 50mm, yellow 200mm (ignore the fact it is at least 3x thiccer than what 200mm would be when comparing it to the 80mm plate thiccness, nothing we can do there) , dark blue nothing, light blue 80mm)

Ok i digged some files and i found the reason, or so i think???
Cr2 BN Hull armor
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So change from the turret_05_back to superstructure_bottom causes this. It seems like missing of EffectiveThicknessMax is causing it to provide flat 80mm istead of variable one, or so i suspect.

Still if is fun how giant composite with nera is so big, yet it states 200mm(i can find the actual thing that is this block, so i take the 200 not only as showed but also as given value (WHY IT IS SO HARD TO FIND THINGS IN THOSE FILES??!??)), and even then these 200mm gets 0.01 modifier.

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We need to report this, it is clear 2E’s underperforming…

I mean, all of them are underperforming, but 2E is underperforming even more lmao

This is just sad. I try to find reasons to convince myself to bring myself down to play with the Challenger 2s, yet I can’t find a single reason.

Back in 2019, Challenger 2 wasn’t the fastest or most meta, but at least it had rate of fire and armor as redeeming qualities. Now it has got NOTHING. Nerfed first-stage reload and nerfed armor…

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