Ignore how on the provided Dev screenshot they show the protection analysis at 2000m.
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I’m not sure quite what you expect when issues are closed with no sourcing or explanation, it looks very much like the tech moderators personal opinion.
What you are seeing here is frustration building up, which isn’t unexpected considering the god awful bug handling and issue resolution at gaijin.
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oh, so it is!
Didn’t notice that.
unless of course they’re trying to use the pop-up that appears when you’re aiming at the tank. in which case that’s even worse because that considers the effectiveness of all the plates strapped together, so of course it’d give 220mm of armour, when they’ve been specifically told the STANAG 4569 Level 5 rating is achieved with just the NERA blocks.
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Exactly, nobody is attacking mods we are annoyed with the lack of communication from them.
I mean this is 4-5 years of pent up frustration finally being given an outlet.
It’s been troubled/bugged since the get go and “deny delay deflect” doesn’t work on War Thunder players.
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Neither of the interpretations put forward regarding STANAG 4569 Page 6, Protection Level requirements are accurately depicted in game.
No matter how you spin it - the block gets penetrated ALWAYS. It is not STANAG 5 in game.
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@Gunjob I’m at a bit of a loss here. The baseplate is very obviously one solid block and is shown here. No dust cover…
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We appreciate that there is frustration. But directing it towards moderatiors and staff is not the way to go about things.
It’s not an excuse for personal attacks and targeting as happened previously.
It’s not constructive and will not help progress things in any manor.
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Smin, could the report regarding the challenger 2 baseplate be re-opened please? The above image clearly shows it’s a solid metal plate.
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It’s better to make a new one with all sources attached and properly sourced (where from).
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No worries :)
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Not attacking anyone just wondering why moderators don’t have to provide sources for their answers. Because there is no source for aluminum and also no source for it being a dust cover. The problem lies with the discrepancy that changes are made that are incorrect and have no factual bases which makes it near impossible to get sources to contradict them.
Other than Trixxters “It is a dust cover” (which according to gajins own rules should have 2 secondary sources or a single primary) under every report regarding this topic we did not get any sources at all why those reports were dismissed.
I’m sorry I don’t see a developer Answer there just the answer of the moderator without any source for the claim.
And to clarify this again, I do not want to attack anybody, after all we are all humans and can make wrong assumptions and mistakes, me included.
It is simple just the issue that we need sources for everything while moderator stuff can apperantly be passed without sources like in the case of the “dust cover”
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British engineers love dust covers, here we can see HMS King George V sporting its dust cover to protect from dust when at sea
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While I don’t think we should be targetting anyone - The protection analysis explaination is blatantly wrong and needs to be retracted.
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Wouldn’t be the first time, reminds me of the time they said the ERA needed the backplate to qualify for the armour protection XD
We just want sources, preferably a primary and perhaps 2 secondary please :)
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Am i seeing this right?
Pretty sure the purpose of the dust cover is also so that the crew can step on it, rather than snapping an ankle between hull and armour. Looks like a 3-5mm steel plate to me.
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This FVC114 sounds like what was sold by AEI as the “ODIN” turret. Was UOR for Spartan 235.
It used the Thales (formerly SELEX) STAWS imaging system the same as the Enforcer RWS, so I imagine it was a Selex/Thales product to begin with.
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Does anybody know the penetration value of dust?
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If they make the claim, you would think they would be able to provide a source which they will have to hand and it would be super easy to say, even if it’s a book title with page number.
This entire ch2 blog is a disaster and should be re-done, this time actually paying attention and reading the bugs they link.
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