If I had to guess is that ASPRO-HMT by it’s self wouldn’t be able to stop tandem warhead’s but when you had the VARMA series 1 into the mix then it could definitely defeat tandem warhead’s !!
Thing with these addon packages is they often take the existing armour of the vehicle into account when advertising the protection levels. So if the system was rated at STANAG Level 5, I suspect that includes the backing plates etc.
Obviously we can only speculate due to the nature of the armour we’re discussing. But if Rafael isn’t advertising it, I wouldn’t expect the TES/OES to defeat them.
I dont think its a case here. Unless ASPRO-HMT is a thing made only for TES/OES, then it will not include the backplate, as the composite backplate is unique to TES/OES
Not sure if the ASPRO blocks are added on top of VARMA or not. Depends on how thicc the ASPRO is by itself
Currently what we know with all current information is that Rafael ASPRO-HMT can’t stop tandem warhead’s by it’s self that is known.
But as I have been explaining is that challenger 2 add-on armour kit TES was designed to defeat Tandem warhead’s and how they achieved it was with three layer’s of armour.
- 40mm RHA armour backplate
- VARMA series 1 at least
- ASPRO-HMT
When you add all that together it would definitely defeat Tandem warhead’s.
Personally I think it should include the backing plate at the very least in its STANAG protection value. If you look at other ASPRO equipped vehicles they arrange the tiles etc in different ways depending on the vehicle. This is likely to include backing plates etc to meet that protection level.
If we as an example mounted just a ASPRO tile on say some wood (hyperbole just to give it the worst case). It would not achieve the same levels of protection as when its mounted on a composite or even aluminium backing plate.
This can be seen on TES/OES where the CR2 armour behind the ASPRO-HMT array leads to STANAG level 6 protection when the ASPRO-HMT is rated at level 5;
You can see we’re they mount the ASPRO-HMT on to the VARMA.
The worst possible example in WT case
Joke
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Ahaha magic log, it might have 100mm of thickness but its multipliers are non-existant so it provides no where close to 100mm RHA protection.
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So I can see what you mean here, but do you have anyway to confirm that backing section actually contains VARMA?
I mean, the only thing i can think about that will be a Chobham is VARMA blocks, but me thinking means nothing :/
Here is 2F, 2H and 2G in order
Didn’t they change it due to a Challenger getting hit by a rpg29
I think the cover overextends the ERA,
That would be logical for me as it has to keep it in place
I use the ECM box as a reference
Could also be the backing section of the block assumed to be VARMA is just the mounting for the block so they can be opened and replaced?
Tbh, it can be anything :/
This book states that both Chob and Aspro are there
Sadly i do not know the source, but it has to be past 2008
Could the Chobam they’re talking about also be the backing plate?
Afaik the back palte was not even once refered to as Chobham. So i doubt it but it cant be excluded. Also the series of layers bugs me, how would it work? Not sure what is going on here tbh.
are there actually sources stating the back plate to be composit?