Challenger 2 MBT - Technical data and Discussion (Part 2)

Dipped briefly into a game in the CR2 and they are still just terrible…Was killed by a French 2A4NL using DM-23 Through that massive gaping gab where the front mantlet and hull should meet!.. While T-90M and 2A7 just absorb L27A1

I would rather Gaijin stopped work on them and moved onto something else I don’t want a CR3 (Final) if it is going to be the same crap we have now

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I’ve been bug reporting the Challenger 2 and Stormer HVM for years man… I’m so tired… And nothing ever changes… My most recent report was on the Stormer HVM, once again having its missiles phase through aircraft, especially scout drones making them impossible to shoot down, I even included a video of this.
https://community.gaijin.net/issues/p/warthunder/i/PaJ3Y1q2rXog

Then another bug which they haven’t responded to for challenger 2, the crusader skin is misaligned meaning that the textures on the side do not line up. to fix this you used to have to rotate the skin, but in recent updates they have locked being able to do that so you are stuck with black panels on the side composite.
https://community.gaijin.net/issues/p/warthunder/i/hABWzcJKx4hU

I honestly don’t know what else to do, when each change they make is like they arn’t co-ordinating with anyone who knows anything about these vehicles and they make changes based on what they THINK they should be rather than what they SHOULD be. Raising the entire breach was a big brain move for an easy and quick fix to the dust cover floating, but a low IQ move for literally anything else.

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It is unequivocally the worst tank in the game at top tier. It’s not even close

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Becuase they literally do not care mate

It isnt USA, Germany OR USSR so not enough people kick up fuss, christ look at the road map for the cr2 then look at what they actually fixed and what they just wrote off.

Waste of time

Yeah i unlocked the cr3 td and have had to take a break man, genuinely thr leopard 2a5 and m1a2 are better than every challanger 2, i love them and wish theyd get the fixes they deserve but i guess not.

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By the way, Gaijin likes you to provide the front cover for documents to help prove they are real, its stupid but I’ve seen them give people shit for not doing it

I believe that is the front cover if you dont already have it and would like to add it to the report

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Thank you and yes whenever they see it that is.

this new update, the fact theyve left the gaping weak point on the challanger, dropped so many new copy paste things, whilst leaving the Hunter F6 at 9.7 for britain and not answering any of the bug reports made shows how little gaijin cares now.

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and still no lower front plate spall liner for the CR2

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The armour is the least of the CR2 problems the fire power and the 4 round ready rack kills the tank

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the armour which IRL is its main damn feature is pretty much non existent in teh game mate xD
The round unfortunately is a biproduct of the damn rifled barrel
the ready rack im sure was proven to be more than 4 rounds but could be wrong.

They literally have arbitrarily nerfed the CR2 AGAIN by moving the damn breach model up creating a massive gap which u can fire straight into the turret ring from xD

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2-piece ammo*

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hence the 2 piece ammunition, is a biproduct of using the rifled barrel.

2pc ammo isn’t a requirement for a rifled barrel and vice versa, main issue with the rifling is the wear/lifetime and more awkward production iirc

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no but they chose the rifled barrel for using hesh, which for the british was a two piece ammo storage system, hence why they use the rifled barrel, so its a biproduct of using the rifled barrel, technically should of said the rifled barrle is a biproduct of using hesh which is two piece ammo but most people dont need to split hairs over it.

regardless that doesnt change the fact that the L27A1 round can only do so much due to being a two (three) piece ammunition.

Yeah the front of the tank is now just dead from any shot now
But having only 4 rounds at 5 seconds and then 6.5 hurts the tank.

Especially with how poorly the CR2 L27A1 seems to do in game :(

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yea but the physical limitation of the dart’s penetration is a direct result of using 2pc ammo, there’s no need to loop back round into procurement and prioritising compatibility with existing ammunition stocks to link said limitation back to the rifled barrel.

fun fact, if you have a fresh crew for the CR2 the past ready rack reload is over 8 seconds.
I with an expert crew on my CR2s am sitting it i think it was 7.2 or 7.6 seconds after the ready rack.
which is absolutely ridiculous.

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What ive said is true though there is nothing wrong with it.

As I said you’re the one splitting hairs over it mate.

“it’s the rifling”
“actually it’s the 2pc ammo”
“you’re splitting hairs.”

if you want you can trace back to the assassination of archduke ferdinand and technically be correct in saying the round performs poorly because Princip was hungry