Part 2 Lets go,
Let us be reminded of some of the travesties of the Challengers 2 by using low effort MS Paint Diagrams.
Mantlet Protection
Mantlet Protection Part 2
Challenger 2 STANAG Rating
TES Block Protection
Why no more protection, then 30mm KE.
Challenger 2 Mobility
the worst thing is that, i could justify and accept it being slow in game if it had the armour to substitute for its lack of speed. but it just doesn’t have that speed or armour.
Like when the 2F dropped yes it was slow but it tanked shots and its ERA protected it from Russian helis…But we couldn’t have that
Well you see I don’t know where the weight is allocated, and neither do you. So you can’t just “assume” that weight is wherever it suits you best.
assuming its a “tank” and we are following “tank” construction guidelines; most of the armour would be on the front, therefore meaning the front is heaviest.
While Im sure you are missing more bug reports, here is one at least.
https://community.gaijin.net/issues/p/warthunder/i/G4fTz108tdYo
Do you have the construction guidelines and schematics for the challenger 2?
Does armour slot through these green bits or is it space for electronics for the TOGS to slot through?
It’s just empty space essentially. Coax passes through it. TOGS is mounted on the top and not a part of this.
I’m not talking about the part where the coax passes through or the standard sight on the other sides, I’m specifically talking about the larger areas around the gun.
Like most if not all tanks that have a barrel referencing sensors those electronics will pass through the mantlet.
I just answered your question for you.
This is what is filled by the rotor front plate locks (i forgot how to call it, by brain brains not). Just like here, but whover made it did not included a hole for trunnion pins.
Gaijin planning to buff T-64,T-72,T-80 rotation speed next update I swear they are just trolling now. This cant be coincidental
no, but i have common sense. what you are saying is:
“because you don’t have the schematics for cr2, you cant say that the rear armour isn’t stronger than the front.”
correct, i can’t say it isn’t. but common sense and historical tank design says that, strongest armour is on the front; so if ANY weight is added anywhere, it would be there, or the sides. the sides were protected by ERA skirts, but we arn’t talking about THAT weight. we are talking about its weight without ERA, which is still tonnes heavier than other things with similar side armour; so if its tons heavier and the side armour is supposedly similar, where is that weight going if not the front?
Dont worry, the Namer is the same weight as a Merkava 4 but without the 20 ton turret. Yet has paper thin side armour, so much for the most protected IFV.
Israel has gravity technology.
You keep going on and on about how all this extra weight must be the front and it must be armour but you don’t have anything to actually base this off of except what you want it to be.
You can assume whatever you want but it isn’t worth a toss. I’ll just wait until one of the destroyed ones get captured and information starts circulating.
Dude please stop, this line of questioning is reductive. Tanks have more armour at the front every tank ever built and will be ever built is designed to face up threats from the front.
If you cant accept that, I dont know what to say. As a counter point how do you know they increased protection on the front of a 2A7, or an M1A2 or a T-90M?? You don’t you trust the sources and what people who are more involved than we are telling you.
This guy must be in charge of the CR2 remodelling…
“But how do we know it’s got a gun” or an “Engine” I have never seen it…
if you just assume that my biased assumptions are correct then they are
How about no. Also what sources? Care to share them? You’re referring to them so you must have them yes?
No I don’t work for BAE systems…
We use the same publicly available information. No one out with BAE has cut a CR2 armour plate in half.
The same as you have no idea what armour composition is like on any other modern MBT in game.
