Yes, it is unable to do so. It does not have HE in its arsenal.
You could say the same with the likes of Forbes and even the Telegraph
None are without biased
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Of course, and i’m sure HESH would be great for Urban fighting but not for indirect fire support on grouped troops or trench lines
213 in active service, so yeah not many at all.
To be fair, compiling and comparing news sourced. Such as the one linked, forbes, telegraph etc, they tend to say the same thinfs. The challanger 2 fails in the mobility department due to the grounds of ukraine and the sheer weight of the tank.
Most sources from the tank crews since tbe challangers have arrived say its armour and space and FCS are phenomenal.
Lacking in the HE department but has a phenomenally accurate gun.
But they do also report issues such as the fact the gun cant fire as many rounds as the abrams for example without maintainance.
No news source is reliable but cross examining them shows what they say in common.
Yeah it’s all stuff we already know. The only thing that would be interesting is a Challenger vs T90M 1v1 in which challenger shrugs off a round and the T90 explodes but like that’s ever gonna happen.
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That’s to be expected considering they used mostly even more cramped soviet vehicles.
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True but they also in the times and this from two reports months apart say the abrams is more.cramped than the cr2
I mean, heck, even stock the Scimitar ain’t a half bad tank. I enjoy being a reccie boi and just reporting/scouting tank positions, and if there just so happens to be a lightly armoured bloke, a bit of AP will do the trick.
The mobility seems a bit off for a CVR(T), but mind you I’m stock right now.
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Fix Challenger 2 and I will nominate the game for labour of love on Steam Gaijin, until then no dice.
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man i resumed spading the BN, 2E, 2F and ive got a talisman on the normal 2 and grinding the 3TD is a fucking headache.
having all kinds of stuff demolish the armour like paper is just irritating.
3BM42 clean through the UFP as if it was a god damn, yeah i get a drivers port is a weakspot. but the fact they dont have to hit the actual port part and hit the massive slopped piece of composite and go clean through is bonkers. or the fact its breach weakspot is nearly twice that of most other MBTs of the BR which still makes literally 0 god damned sense for it to be so weak the tanks one of the most well defended tanks of its era and still to this god damned day xD yet here we are. 8.7 tank rounds can go clean through it and wipe it out. but yeah germany suffers, abrams needs buffed etc etc etc.
Or how the reload is an insult now, its the slowest reload at top tier past the initial 4 rounds. ready rack replenishment is ludicrously slow.
mobility is guff
all in all, its just sad genuinely its making me wnat to stop playing the game, and putting any more money into it. they flat out refuse to fix or pay much attention to the vehicles or game modes in game and just keep churning out new stuff thats so half assed its not worth even getting.
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4 round ready rack we need more than this. It’s the craziest nerf/balancing decision ever.
I prefer the BK to the CR2E having a system that can save me from helis or BMP2s is always welcome as we know the 2Fs, TES and OES armour doesnt stop side shot ATGMs
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Why does it even take so long to reload the ready rack, like wtf do these guys think the loader is doing in there lol?
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Army suddenly reduced its requirements: loader only needs to get past level 1 on beep test, and have 1 working arm (optional)
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the fact IRL the armour has stopped all kinds of ATGMs and tank rounds in the conflicts it has been all around the word it shocks me how poorly armoured the challanger 2 is in game.
I took out the leopard 2a5 just there, was bouncing 3MB60, M829A2 and the chinese dart, all with the turret cheeks, they could not damage me.
Tried the same with the challanger 2E and BN and they scythe clean through the turret like its made out of paper, and the breach shot as well is such a piss poor excuse, why on christs earth when making a tank at the time to be more survivable than any of the others would the British RnD leave such an exposed weak point.
it feels like due to the clown years ago that leaked the documents for the challanger 2 that it can never be anywhere near what it is IRL.
cause two stage ammunition is just so sosososososososososo obsolete compared to 1 stage.
Hence why the challanger 2 can fire faster than most the competition for a sustained period, bar i believe the M1 family of tanks. yet when the challanger 2 empties the first stage stoage its reload is what nearly 8 seconds iwth an unexpert untrained crew.
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also I have seen comment from a former cr2 crew member highly praising the hydrogas suspension and how it is extremely smooth allowing great acceleration to top speed and mobility across all surfaces. Nowhere to be seen in game
its literally the best tank suspension in use IRL man its insanely complicated but extremely effective. Genuinely the challanger 2s in game are a pathetic excuse for tanks, and i reckon rather than fix them, theyll add indian tech which is busted af and just call it a day.
As ive said on a different topic, I want stuff to get fixed, look at italy and france their solution was to just add leopards xD and for air add an F16 for france n Gripen for italy. Its a poor excuse
like the chieftain, there are reports from multiple sources, that cross country it could keep up with the leopard 1 due to the suspension system allowing for more stable and controlled driving cross country. But here we are
I don’t know if this still stands as I don’t know what research the others have done now but I still think the current Challenger 2 has the hull front of Challenger 1 mk2 for this game. So therefore CR1mk2 should have 500mm upper hull, same minimum protection as its turret and Challenger 2 should have like some classified amount on its hull.
Challenger 2s turret is up for speculation but I think it lacks in CE by like 200mm at least. Also the mantlet and cheek armour gaps are just BS modelling, pretty much known to be an artificial nerf at this point.
I think think that near the entire roof is actually covered in composite, currently labelled as aluminium and structural steel but it doesn’t look like it to me. It looks more reminiscent of how the Strv 122s roof is set up which features composite armour.
As for the mobility may I say this is the most gimped tank game in terms of modelling mobility ever seen. The fact everything uses handbrake steering is shambolic when world of tanks, battlefield, armoured warfare all model tank driving better. Suspension modelling across the whole game is rubbish and traction needs a total rework, the transmission and gear system is just stupid in how it translates to many vehicles.
I don’t understand why they added India honestly, as an asian guy they might as well add Pakistan to the UK tree so I can play Al-Khalid without having to play China, it makes more sense. India used to be a colony but its now separated along with Pakistan which was literally part of India. If we are just adding vehicles for convenience sake might as well.
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