The new sight ring is cool though :)
did they remove the wind sensor thing from the roof of all the challenger 2’s? i remember seeing it on one of them and not the others, and now none of them have it.
like, i remember seeing pictures of the standard challenger 2 in game having it, but now its just… gone. is this a Mandela effect or something? pretty sure its part of the FCS to help lead targets at range accurately, though i may be wrong. either way, odd its missing, or odd they removed it.
It was always folded. There is a report to make it unfolded tho.
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on the models currently, its not even folded; its just straight up removed on all of them. just a hole where it should be.
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I knew I saw it in game somewhere, so that must have been where I saw it. I haven’t played for a while, so it was bugging my head that it was missing.
it is there
that is the sensor
folded under a plate
ahh! understood. yeah it should be “deployed” then, when in battle. looks like gaijin have acknowledged it over a year ago with no change.
edit: the “Crusader” skin for the regular challenger 2 is now broken as well, as you cant rotate it to get the decals on the composite skirts anymore, making them just black panels. I made a bug report here;
https://community.gaijin.net/issues/p/warthunder/i/hABWzcJKx4hU
Is there any news if they will increase the ready rack count?
None yet.
But a thread like this will appear every dev thread until it does
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They wont change it man.
Theres so much wrong with the challanger 2s genuinely makes me sad to see it.
Or the leclercs as well
Or thr arietes.
Sorta makes me feel like unless u play the big 3 its meaningless to play.
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Unfortunately, this is a sentiment felt by many. Each new vehicle added to the non big three nations feels like it’s a token rather than it being added because it needs it, considering they have so many things to fix with the existing vehicles that are never looked at. It’s a “we will give them another vehicle, rather than fixing whats already there so they stop talking about it for a while” kinda deal.
I’d rather they look at challenger 2, add all the missing bits and features and fix the bugs with it, and the stormer, and do the same to that, general bug fixes and overhaul, than have them throw another vehicle at us that doesn’t do anything new to the tech tree (the scimitar is just a tracked fox and i cant imagine its br will be much different considering) - but instead we get vehicles to silence us about the pre existing problems with the vehicles already there.
-Challenger 2’s steering has been a problem from the start and has never been addressed.
-Challenger 2’s METEO device has always been missing.
-Challenger 2’s Barracuda net has never worked, and despite all the new camo nets it’s only now getting a visual rework to match camo’s applied to the vehicle, but not a physical model update.
-Stormers missiles still phase through aircraft
-Stormer is still missing some key radar features such as IFF among other things
-Stormer starstreak still has tracers despite them being smokeless, non tracer irl.
-Stormer missiles are still picked up by RWR despite being a visual guidance system
aswell as many, many more; but “here. have a the scimitar, its basically a worse warrior and a better fox, oh and its coming with nerfs to the gun. enjoy!” give us new stuff, when the old stuff is fixed.
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youre absolutely spot on man, and its through all the BRs as well.
Look at the chieftains for example alone, the Mk5 is missing its LRF (whihc got accepted) and L15A5 round.
or in air, the javaline, the jet specifically renowned for breaking the sound barrier over london cant go mach.
The other minor nations, such as the amx30s in game arent stabilised, but thats because IRL they had a different system that meant the gunner sight was stabilised and the gun would fire when it lined up with the sight, (massive simplification) but is what it did, but in game, nope u gotta suffer like mad with 8.7 no stabbed stuff. ( i love them for sniping but any CQC maps you may as well eat sand)
or what the OF40 MTCA getting DM33 after its been released for how many years? xD
Type 89 nerfed into the ground.
This isnt even touching all the top tier stuff i mean challanger 2 armour is useless in game, the tank renowned world wide for its armour may as well be toilet paper in game.
on top of that, IRL it keeps up with most Nato tanks Cross country due to the suspension system same as the cheiftain in tests kept up with leopard 1 but yeah here we are.
i mean i know theres small issues in other trees, but im on a different topic rn where yet another USA main is demanding the DU inserts in the hull, the turret ring buff, etc etc n its like brother the abrams rn is one of the better top tier tanks xD
edit, also had someone say and i quote “Abrams has superior protection level than Challenger 2 in real life, Challenger 2 even lacks blowout panels which became standart protection level for almost any Nato tank. Not to mention current Challenger 2’s armor overperforming in this game, you have no idea what you’re talking about.” when i said that IRL the abrams is less protected than challanger 2.
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It seems like it’s just too much effort to fix cr2 at this point, there are so many minor discrepancies between all the challenger 2 versions in game. You’d need to bug report each individually. The 2F and TES both have bigger roadwheels than the rest for example which is funny, don’t know which size is more accurate as the large ones look right but there doesn’t seem to be enough space between them to function.
I know the camouflage netting is being updated but can we just appreciate how cursed it currently looks, this is max graphics lmao.
Compare this to the level of care that was put into making sure T72B3 had small details captured, like putting red paint around the barrel tip, or making sure the T90 came fully modelled with its shtora system perfectly modelled. It is obvious where the priorities lie. I’m hoping we can get more fixes and turn it around but I don’t see the incentive for them at this point.
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I doubt the challenger will get any actual improvements going forward.
But little things like the gun mantlet being too high and forward since the rework and the fabric above it floating in mid air. How was that never fixed at the time? Or since?
It’s as though each vehicle has a certain amount of bug fixing time allotted and the rework took this years up so that’s it, better luck next year!
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they wont fix it, ever
they managed to turn some of the best MBTs of their time into an absolute joke.
Leclerc, abysmal and missing half its kit in game.
Chally 2, absolutely useless in game half its armour is wrong.
arietes while not great IRL arent as paper as they are in WT
etc etc n we cant even get a model done right
can anyone explain to me why the M1A2 didnt go to 12.0 ? when literally every other 11.7 bar the chally 3TD cause its garbage went to 12.0? xD
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cant help but notice that, in the new update they improved the camo nets on all the challenger 2’s, but completely missed the fact that the breach dust cover is still floating on all but the standard chally 2. so all the vehicles they did nets on, still have that bug and have had it for well over a year now, Including the OES.
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No. They forgot 2F
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2f has an updated camo net. but ALL of the challenger 2’s still have a floating breach dust cover. ((except standard chally 2))
Yeah I bug reported that recently, it’s already bug reported for 3 months though by others lol.
https://community.gaijin.net/issues/p/warthunder/i/ZJS0e9BmJbfo
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