This is my last point on this, frankly you are exhausting and incapable of discussion.
Nothing to do with Germay or Russia or Sweden. No one cares about the fact this is a used by multiple nations in the real world. The point is and was in game.
How many other mechanics weapon systems have been added as the “first in game” only for other nations to catch up? Adding Thermal reductive camo wouldnt have made the CR2 2F OP just a cool niche feature to help it hide snipe and survive.
A lot of people could disagree there
Even more prominent uk mains.
I am one of the tame “german mains” and csn discuss a lot of stuff anf help other nations where i can even UK.
Its just a you problem, because you constantly came to make problem and accused me of stuff that was never true.
Stull irrelevant, because it nevwr happend and at the current time wouldnt be unique, dont know what u dont understand there
So why you here causing hassles over the challanger 2?
Where am i doing that?
I am only saying the barracuda net / feature is nothing unique.
It has bothing to do specialy with the challenger thats the point.
I would have writtrn the same if someone would only have specialy claimed it for leopards ,T-90M etc etc
I think a core difference though is that most other tanks aren’t struggling at top tier. With their ultra low mobility, poor protection and these days, below average firepower. Barracuda would be the perfect way to give them an edge. Yes it probably would come to a lot of nation and more than likely come to Britain last… but anyway… Challenger 2s need some pretty massive buffs ASAP, and Barracuda is definetly one to consider, especially with 3 of them already having it visually modeled I think.
Not fighting that,
But there is arietes, merkas which arguably can be worse.
That already makes it not being unique.
And the other nations asking for it as well is normal.
As example the leo 2 PSO is produced with heat diversion to reduce thermal signature.
It comes standard equipped with it ,no net needed
With their 5 second reload + DM53 + decent ready rack. Id argue the Arietes are at least decent glass canons these days which is more than can be said for CR2s with their L27A1 and tiny ready racks.
But yes, its not the only ones that are desperate for it. Though should come to those without armour first (maybe even only to those that need the edge)
Probably… or 5 second reloads. Buff those that dont need it and fail to buff those that needed it
Or fix the suspension so it works hpw it does irl.
While the challanger 2 is heavy, it still goes insanely fast for its size.off road.
Same as in trials off road the chieftain maintained a better speed than leopard 1s due to the suspension.
Id love to see the challangers at least work in one way theyre designed to.
Or get the l28a1 round at least, l27a1 is up there with one of the worst top tier rounds.
L28A1 is just an export variant of L27A1 that used Tungsten Alloy instead of Depleted uranium. In the Gaijin Calculator it “might” net better pen, but it also might not.
The better option would be to model ERA perforation for the L27A1 and up the ready rack from 4 rounds to 20+. Also maybe a 4-4.5 second reload time for a minor reload speed advantage again.
After that, just fix the armour
Ah my apologies i thought the l27a1 was the tungsten and l28 the Du, ah good points as well.
They need to model the stuff correctly , as it stands when u do pen if you arent an ammo shot the spalling is atrocious.
Gotta love one of the most well armoured mbts in the world for its time and still to this day regarded highly for said armour. In wt cant even stop 2a38 rounds.
Hell earlier today i took out a challanger 2 with a dm23 (120mm) in one tap frontally it really shouldn’t be able to be one tapped by a 10.7 leopard 2a4 frontally, or the massive breach shot
Apropos L27A1, has anything been said recently to make the pen be higher (not like irl 700mm or so) ? As I do know that the report for it was denied to to balance reasons, but Britain could need a upgraded CHARM 3
wasnt for balance reason, they just tested in a way that the results came as bigger then it is in reality
your only hope for penetration increase is the chally 3 completly working with full armor etc
and then maybe dm73 and dm83
This is the latest report:
https://community.gaijin.net/issues/p/warthunder/i/bMbEJftRqiSp
But the biggest buff for firepower would be the ready rack (Report 1 and report 2 )
but the devs seem to be content to leave the Challenger 2 untouched after the dev post we had about a year ago. Its a shame they arent willing to address any other reports, including those challenging the changes made in that dev post
Looks sooo much better.
Least we will look fabulous before we turn into a burning wreck
but its a rifled gun right? so the penetration isnt as good right? (also yes i know it was kinda a bad shot)
Gaijin and realistic penetrations have never gotten along well
Yeah 😭
