Just do what i did and grind out the TES from stock without premium, it makes grinding the others a blast as you cant get any worse from then on. Although i cam to love my TES purely because its the best looking one hands down so i dont mind playing it out in my top tier lineup instead of the black night (i still havent bothered with the chally “3” as its just a chally with a little more pen but worse survivability, if thats possible, ironically).
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could you please delve more into your comment?
same here, cant go back from 2 tes after playing it so long, it may be the slowest of the bunch but damn i love every inch of it
Idk what Devil means, but last we heard officially is they’re not even bothering with the 1350hp upgrade at all and are sticking with 1200hp (hopefully that’s somewhat relevant and useful)
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https://questions-statements.parliament.uk/written-questions/detail/2024-03-11/17793
I assume you mean this
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Indeed (insert sad face)
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Sure
We know that Fans, Radiators and fuel injections are improved. But what does it give, who knows?
Yeah there is no way that I will touch the two folded 11.3 chally2, those two is just pure overweight without having any other advantages. Maybe if I decide to quite wt then I will try stock grind those
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I mean, i have every ground and air now apart from the f111 and sea harrier so i had nothing else to grind. Plus i got it back when it wasnt folded and was the end of line chally which is always funny to me.
reliability, just because something can give more doesnt mean its designers are going to captalize on power only, if they do later on then thats amazing, but now its still advertised as 1200hp
got damn, understandable tho,
Yeah. Unfortunately if one more tank doesn’t need maintenance. That is one more tank that that can be used without needing a backup to fill force demands.
For example. Look at how many the USA has of the F35 or other fighters… And how few are in operation status at any one time.
I am just finding that the fact the world is going for smaller, more reliable, faster, is intresting; as it is showing that vehicles don’t really have that much life expectancy for future of war (in general).
It does suck for trying to model them for games though.
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Well… THere was a REALLY good looking remodel on the dev server, and then it never came to live, instead we got some nerfs.
Half of things in the devblog were challenged and proven wrong, like the aluminium backplates, but those bug reports are still outstanding to be fixed
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They moved the ammunition, they changed the turret (to worse). They keep missinterpreting ASPRO and L27A1 penetration was ignored.
So if I remember, on the CR2
The issues I remember were:
L27A1 underperforming: GJ uses Lanz Odermatt formula, so any “test” data makes no odds unless we present new material suggesting the data they input in L-O is incorrect (for instance, if we provided evidence that the round didn’t weigh 4.3kg, or data on the shape of the penetrator rod, we might be winning. but most of that is classified, or unknown, so we have no idea)
The Turret Model: It got… well… changed…
And the ASPRO on the TES/OES: Gaijin can’t read or at the very least don’t even understand their own game systems, so the ASPRO stayed the same and the backing plate became Aluminium (with, as far as we know, no evidence)
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that one L27A1 penetration test was propably somehow wrong either way, it presented to high penetration either because it was tested at a weak target or similar.
If it realy had the promised penetration they wouldnt have switched to the german L/55A1 cause it is an upgrade
just so I don’t throw the toys out the pram, we are definitely talking about Flame’s one from the CR2 Devblog? ( Challenger 2 L27A1 CHARM 3 round should have 700 mm penetration // Gaijin.net // Issues)
iirc that one made the point that CHARM 3 had superior to M829A1 performance against a test target. now, of course, because Brits use very high angle targets (by all accounts more angled than the NATO standard) it’s possible you’re also correct.
Not that it matters, as the numbers that go into and come out of L-O formula are the only ones that matter, and while we can suspect the current figures going into the formula are wrong, (the mass is the same as L26/Jericho, and iirc the penetrator length is also assumed to be the same) because we don’t have any paper evidence to confirm there’s nothing we can do. Hopefully the move to CR3 and L/55A1 will mean we might get a bit more to work off, but that’s a pipe dream a couple years down the line. There’s not even a guarantee that all CR2s will be withdrawn.
As it happens, Flame put forward a further report on the matter - Challenger 2 (All) - L27A1 CHARM 3 penetration too low // Gaijin.net // Issues
should be it, 700mm penetration for all sense and purposes it doesnt make sense for them to switch to the L/55A1, which supposedly their words is a massive upgrade in capability
btw german rounds use wrong densitity in the game as well so dont worry about that
I can’t claim to be a conoisseur on anything German, nor, to put it bluntly, do I care too much, considering I have no intention of playing German MBTs anytime soon, so I wouldn’t know.
I mean I’d make the argument that the “upgrade in capability” is more the fact they don’t have to have their own supply chain hauling L30A1-compatible ammunition around. They can now, in theory, stop off at any NATO Replenishment point, and so long as they have “Tank Rounds” they can use them instead. Apart from anything else, by memory L30A1 ammunition stocks are finite, so it becomes a logistical problem too. It takes time and money to restart a production line, neither of which we particularly have at the minute, and Rheinmetall had demonstrated the ability to bung a L/55A1 into a Chally 2 turret by that point.
I don’t know that, of course. My point on Supply of Ammunition is merely conjecture. But I rather suspect that it had a significant influence.