Challenger 2 MBT - Technical data and Discussion (Part 2)

I just saw they didn’t even bother to fix the turret ring on Abraham’s which aren’t the new ones.

Their uselessness astounds me every day.


LOL youre right

What a terrible update if you’re wanting to play western ground, jfc.

The best thing to do with these developers is to expect absolutely nothing, as they’ve been demonstrating for years that they care little to nothing about realism or even game balance. All they care about is adding increasingly expensive premium vehicles to make quick money without much effort. They don’t even optimize the game for stable FPS; they only focus on creating an attractive showcase to deceive people and trap them in this black hole that is the game.

can you tell us why though?
Like what’s the biggest issue

  • worse turret armour
  • no CITV
  • no Gen 2 thermals.
  • worse magnification.

it’s better overall due to firepower and mobility.
It’s definitely not better in every way though,

Not really.
2Ri has at least some kinetic protection.
Abrams got a hull armour buff
the seps got their turret ring buffed
M829A3
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So not really a fair statemetn that, it’s crap if you wanna play british CR2s for ground.

its basically “Vickers Mk7” option at top tier.

What hapend to the mantlet breach pins being added “in the next major update” are gaijin just streight rage baiting 😂

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basically they dont really have any gimmick where they excel in or have an advantage over other tanks. like ive played germany and america top tier. germany top tier is really good tbh i dont know how germany has such bad wr lmao but the main thing is that they have really good guns with a good round and good armor especially on the 2a7v. the abrams are decent tanks i liked them when i played them and they have strong rounds good mobility and decent armor. now onto the challengers, originally they didnt really excel in anything in the first place like mobility or armor lmao but i think the one key feature to why i stuck with them is the fact they didnt have the shitty turret basket and additional modules. i cant speak for everyone but to me this was the one key feature about the challenger 2 that made it unique over other top tier mbts. basically what happens is that i generally find the challengers more survivable on penetrations than the abrams or leopards which is why i even bothered to use them in the first place. on their own however the challengers arent necessarily bad i actually do well in them its just everything else is so much better and this is even more apparent now that the challenger has a similar damage model to the leopards and abrams

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they were there in first dev and then removed, I wouldn’t be surprised if any new reports on it just get marked as duplicates and because the original is “fixed” they’ll never address it again

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i almost just got a nuke midgame while i was typing this lol

ah i see, i dont have the m1a1 aim unlocked so i just assumed it would have gen 2 thermals on the tank.

according to the wiki both the CR2E and AIM have 800x600 thermal resolution

I used to play with you in the step rice fields North Korea map.

i dont know if its true or not gonna need someone to fact check what the m1a1 squad vehicle actually has lol. but i think itd be strange that the m1a1 would have gen 1 thermals when its equivalent in the usa has gen 2. i also dont find much difference in the magnification of the cr2e and the m1a1. m1a1 has 3-13x and 2e has 2-10x

these days i dont even use the challengers. ive been having a lot of fun with the zt3a2 and im convinced it has to be one of the best if not the best atgm carrier in game in terms of pure firepower. i got a nuke in my third game in it at 13.0. how this thing is 8.3 is beyond me

“We investegated ourselves and found we did nothing wrong.”
Using an ingame test to disprove real world performance is not only fundamentally flawed but outright wrong. You cannot use it to disprove primary sources.
We know L27A1 is capable of penetrating a fully armoured T-80U, K5 and all, from a primary source and examples from the current thing that can’t be mentioned.
We know K5, all ERA, is overperforming due to the use of a fixed armour value regardless of impact angle with this disproportionately buffing the soviets.
We know Soviet tank armour, hulls in particular, are spectacularly overperforming. Textolite is not magic and in the arrangements it’s used in it is physically impossible to get any bulge plate effect or any meaningful path disruption. It is purely there for HEAT protection and its replacement with steel as KE threats increased in prevalence proves this.

It is time to pull your heads out of the sand, admit you are wrong and get about fixing things according to real sources that are all held to the same standard for all nations.

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man i would just be happy if they gave the challengers similar spall liner setups like the 2a7v or the t90m or buffed the round so it wouldnt be the worst top tier mbt apfsds lol

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Ive got 9 oit of 10 nations at top tier.
The Abrams have on Average better firepower than the leopards due to the l/44 caliber cannon having more pen with n829a2 with a faster reload.

And on par or better mobility, trade off is rbe 2a7 has better armour.

They were also given 5 second reloads first to give them an advantage at top tier btw.
But yeah being filled with nodules and having no upgrades if any nerfs to armour makes them seem absolutely pointless for their brs.

It is disgusting how one of the worlds best armoures mbts can be taken out by a ww2 75mm cannon.

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