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Mr Swingfire - I feel we are both slandering our Soviet friends. As IF they’d actually have butter!
Runs for cover
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“currently known performance” there’s an accepted report about L27A1 dimensions being wrong in-game (passed as suggestion because of course it was) plus hints that it might be higher density than usual for DU rounds.
the weird thing is that the 700mm pen has been dismissed as being achieved at extreme angles (~70 degrees) and the current in-game performance is “close enough”, yet T-80U UFP angle is 68 degrees and as smin has said the dart struggles against ERA-less areas of the T-80U. which provides ~520mm RHAe.
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like I am just rambling here, but denying pen buffs cause the 700mm RHAe is at extreme angles and it’s close enough in-game, then dismissing anti-ERA capability because it struggles against 520mm RHAe at extreme angles feels like the devs want to have their cake and eat it too
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Coming out of the woodwork a bit here from my last foray into this thread, being the ASPRO-HMT + Backing plate underperformance debacle, but frankly I can’t help but laugh. And I think I’ve earned some right to proclaim that nothing here has changed.
There’s a reason I’ve bought nothing on WT, nor played it more than fleetingly for 3 years. That reason is epitomized in this thread. I used to spend £100s on this game, and all I can say is that I wish I could take it all back.
Just amusing to watch my reason why playing on repeat like the worst broken record known to man even after years away xD
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Yeah, Gaijin is literally War Thunders biggest threat at the moment.
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When I remark on my gaming past to my friends, I’ve settled into the habit of calling War Thunder ‘my worst gaming experience ever’, and I currently play WoW and used to play The Isle so hopefully that says everything you need to know : )
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They removed most my commnets xD
They’re now at it surely, they shot down the bug report on the M1A2SepV3 as well as they rejected almost any bug report for nato alrayd.
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Another “marketing lie” in your words then???
I am now convinced that you are baiting for more leaked documents with this behaviour against every proof that NATO equipment might underperform in your game.
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A very strange take, as all that will do is get the person banned, reported the the relevant authorities and ensure we will never touch that material.
We do not use, handle or touch anything with any restrictions and have a very clear policy on this: Source Material: Restrictions on Classified and Export Restricted information (“Military Restrictions”)
Please keep the topic on track and civilised. Its possible to discuss and disagree without going into the conspiracy side of things.
if you dont want people to go to classified documents on stuff then the rules for bug reporting need to be changed to be less strict because right now the ammount of stuff people have to do to get something implemented in a GAME is insane
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No. There is no excuse for this and no justification for this. Full stop.
It wont change anything, wont be accepted and wont be used. So its literally a loose loose.
We wont use, handle or touch anything and it would just get the person posting banned. It could not be more clear: Source Material: Restrictions on Classified and Export Restricted information (“Military Restrictions”)
not my point, theres a lot of things the devs ask for as proof which the community just cant get (legally) the whole bug reporting system is way to strict and specific and it gets to a point where people wonder wheres the line between enough declassified stuff for them to use or them asking for documents or proof people cant get to get something so simple implemented in the game
for example this whole L27A1 report needing the most specific details even though it clearly states its possible and not some kind of marketing lie, my point is that the devs/bug reporting managers are asking to much details on modern equipment as its simply not possible to find
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Frankly this isn’t even true. In a lot of cases we have appropriate information, the goal posts are just shifted right in front of our faces.
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Yeah this really is stupid. Like incredibly stupid, war thunder is a glorified arcade game. These conversations regarding modern stuff have always been in bad faith and childish as there is no possible way to get the specific information needed to implement obvious common sense. I mean the guys here have already provided enough information to prove the tank is modeled hilariously badly.
It’s been 7 years of this back and forth ever since 2019 and the Challenger 1. The point really, is that there is no credible way to obtain definitive information regarding challenger 1 or 2, and that is the point. The devs are just gaslighting us all to allow them to make whatever arbitrary changes they like. It’s rather cruel really that they dangle the possibility of change, saying if you find the secret sauce your tank will be fixed. Never before has this been more obvious that the devs are the ones who use marketing lies. Challenger 3 is going to be the biggest farce yet with the burden of proof on us saying something like “well how do you know the Epsom isn’t just 30mm of structural steel? Please provide us with a piece so we can confirm it isn’t”.
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Honestly ignoring all of this gestures broadly at our 2nd clear Marketing lies moment
Britain’s eating good this patch and I thank our Gaijin overlords for 95% of it.
2 new top tier MBT’s
APHE
9 ALARMS for Tonka (When 6x for Tiffy?)
GR.1 is getting GBU-12 (When Mk 103 engines?)
PGM’s getting buffed
Martel’s getting buffed
Harrier I’s getting more SNEB’s (When AOA buffs?)
Alecto is now more effective
Washington (It’s 11 years too late)
More RP-3’s for our planes
RP-2’s for the FG.1 (I remember Flame’s report on it on the old forums, it’s a 6 year old report. When Flechette?)
Spitfire Mk IX’s are getting more bombs (Finally some 6.0 CAS for our 6.0 lineup)
I would like to see the 540lb get a facelift and for the retarded version to be added to more vehicles (Buccaneer hint hint cough cough)
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I dare people to say this update is a nothingburger.
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Its a nothingburger. At least for me.
Tornado GR4 getting ALARM is nice, but is over BRed in ARB and ASB and that was before the massive amounts of recent compression. There also seems to be no sign of SEAD targets actually being added to ASB or ARB yet. Tornado GR1 though got totally shafted for the sake of it keeping it at 11.3 in GRB where we have nothing to use it with.
Typhoon finally got instructor fixes but also got a CM nerf. No other fixes to speak of.
Harriers got no FM fixes, or heat sig fixes. SHar still missing EEGS and most of its HUD.
New aircraft seem niche, and barely playable, Washington especially given how bad bombers are
Naval got nothing.
Dont care about ground additions. I dont play top tier.
APHE might be nice but I dont overally enjoy those BR.
The Aiming point mechanic is interesting, but poorly executed. Need to find a 8? new keybinds
A lot of poor Misc additions, like the arrestor wires on runways which are forced upon players.
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Do they ever get anything?